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    Quote Originally Posted by hiroller View Post
    Looking good. What your plans for the missing parts?
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    Aahh well, like Baldrick, I have a cunning plan...
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    While researching the parts pages in the catalogue, I realised that my No.1½ shares a number of parts with the No.1 post drill (and other varients) *.

    The No.1 shares the same flywheel and (I believe) the same crank-arm, while the crank hub (non-detachable on the No.1) could probably be easily modified to suit the No.1½. While my No.1½ is the only such machine I've ever seen listed, the No.1 shows up from time to time...
    Boynton & Plummer.jpg Boyton & plummerQ.jpg Boynton & Plummer No1.jpg sellers pictures collected over a few years.

    And better still - having the flywheel rotate at the same speed as the hand crank makes it a less popular machine to own - hopefully I might be able to pick up an incomplete one for not too much cash.
    Of course, that'll still leave me short a table but that's just one pattern to make.

    Cheers, Vann.

    * other common parts (not needed for this rebuild) include: feed-wheel; feed nut & screw; coupler; and spindle.
    Today I scored an incomplete Boynton & Plummer No.1

    B&Pno1.jpg Sellers photograph.

    That'll get me the flywheel, crank hub, and crank arm (although the wooden handle may need work). Also, hopefully a couple of square head 7/16" bolts for the crank bracket.

    The downside is, it's in Dunedin. I'll get my brother to collect it for me, but he's not capable of knocking up a crate, so it'll have to wait for my next visit (possibly October this year) before I get my hands on it.

    Cheers, Vann.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vann View Post
    For the Table: Unlike most post drills, where the table pivots off a bolt through the fork, this post drill has (had) a table that pivots off the pillar/column.

    The remnants of the old table were still attached to the pillar when I took delivery of the drill. The removed remnant looks like this...

    TabHL.jpg

    The Boynton & Plummer 1903 catalogue (available online through OWWM) contains an illustrated parts list. I printed the page showing the parts and then blew-up the portion showing the table. Using a known dimension (the diameter of the pillar) I calculated a few other dimensions (always rounding to the nearest imperial dimension) resulting in this...

    Attachment 335840
    I visited a local "theme park" yesterday. At the entrance to a barn was this E.N. Boynton No.1½ post drill - forerunner to my Boynton & Plummer No.1½.

    It is missing it's flywheel, and the wooden handle of the crank arm. Otherwise it looks complete. It is rusty and completely seized (spindle, feed, auto-feed, crank, table) except for little follower wheel at bottom of auto-feed lever.

    Surprisingly the table is intact (breaking off at the neck, just beyond where they pivot on the pillar, seems a common problem).

    ENBtableML.jpg ENB4ML.jpg detail of underside - which I had assumed was flat

    Having neither ruler nor camera, I asked my son-in-law to take some photos. I measured the diameter of the table as being 2 credit cards and half the eftpos receipt wide . I measured that today as being 8 inches - which is what I scaled off the parts drawing some months ago.

    I can't put off making this pattern much longer.

    Cheers, Vann.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vann View Post
    Today I scored an incomplete Boynton & Plummer No.1

    B&Pno1.jpg Sellers photograph.

    That'll get me the flywheel, crank hub, and crank arm (although the wooden handle may need work). Also, hopefully a couple of square head 7/16" bolts for the crank bracket.

    The downside is, it's in Dunedin. I'll get my brother to collect it for me, but he's not capable of knocking up a crate, so it'll have to wait for my next visit (possibly October this year) before I get my hands on it.

    Cheers, Vann.
    I arrived in Dunedin last Sunday (1st November). A couple of photos of the No.1 drill:

    aBP1.jpg aBP2.jpg

    Part of my trip home was to be by train and ferry, so when I stripped it down and found the main casting to have a repair, I felt less guilty about leaving that heavy, bulky piece behind.

    aBP3.jpg plated and rivetted repair, quite nicely done

    The only markings on the drill was this:

    aBP4.jpg "Boynton & Plummer, Maker, Worcester, Mass."

    And this:

    aBP5a.jpg aBP6.jpg "18"

    I would guess that these were individually fitted, rather than mass produced with interchangeable parts. If that's the case, then I suggest this will have been the eighteenth No.1 in that batch. Similarly the No.1½ post drill is marked "3" in a number of places:

    Chuck3b.jpg CC3b.jpg

    I bought this post drill for the flywheel and crank hub, for my No.1½ Boynton & Plummer post drill. Other components such as feedwheel; coupler; feedwheel; and feednut & screw, will be kept as spares, as they are interchangeable with the No.1½ post drill.

    It's good to have the parts home. However, a few other major projects will have to take precedent. Nonetheless, I'm sure I'll get little bits done on this over the next few months...

    Cheers, Vann.
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    That's good news it's been a long wait.
    I saw so many silvers today all complete.
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    Vann,
    I wonder if those two 18's are match marks struck by the machinist as part of that machines build, possibly the eighteenth that day? Similarly with the No 3's?
    I agree that the riveted repair is nicely done, an interesting story behind that perhaps.
    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boringgeoff View Post
    I wonder if those two 18's are match marks struck by the machinist as part of that machines build, possibly the eighteenth that day?
    I agree, definitely match marks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Boringgeoff
    I agree that the riveted repair is nicely done, an interesting story behind that perhaps.
    I didn't get any back story with this drill (sometimes I ask the seller - but I felt bad, scrapping the drill for parts, so didn't). However, I'd guess that's a very old blacksmith's repair (it is a blacksmiths post drill after all).

    aBPrepair.jpg t'other side

    I've a couple of other post drills broken in a similar location. What's happened is someone has been happily cranking away when the drill has reached the end of it's travel. The coupler nut bottoms out and the energy in the flywheel puts such force on the casting that it breaks. However on Boynton & Plummer post drills they have a "patent automatic stop on feed" in the form of a small groove (to the left, and below the coupler nut in the pikkie). This allows the feed-screw to rotate so that the feed no longer advances. So how this break occurred I don't know?

    Quote Originally Posted by DSEL74
    I saw so many silvers today all complete.
    But no Boynton & Plummers !

    Cheers, Vann.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vann View Post
    But no Boynton & Plummers !
    Have they knocked Silvers off the perch as your favourite now?

    I have seen the occasional Wiley & Russell, Green River maybe 1 or 2 but don't think I have ever come across a Boynton & Plummers over here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSEL74 View Post
    Have they knocked Silvers off the perch as your favourite now?
    Not yet .

    Maybe I should start a Silver post drill thread - and bore you all to death .

    Cheers, Vann.
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    Hi ho Silver!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiroller View Post
    Hi ho Silver!
    Does that make my Boynton & Plummer "Tonto"?

    Cheers, Vann.
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    That right, Kemosabe!

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    Default Boynton & Plummer No.1 Parts

    Here are the parts I bought home (I'd discarded the broken main casting)

    aBP12.jpg

    aBP11.jpg

    This is how I carted the flywheel (and a few other minor bits) on the ferry. The box weighed 13kg (and I had a similar box with a Silver flywheel in the other hand). The rest of the components were in my backpack.

    Quote Originally Posted by hiroller View Post
    Looking good. What your plans for the missing parts?
    aBP13.jpg parts to go on my No.1½

    - The crank arm is heavily rusted; the handle shaft has been replaced by a bolt; I'm not sure if the wooden handle is original. I'll probably remake the whole assembly;
    - I need to remove the shaft from the crank hub, then bore it out to fit the No.1½;
    - the No.1 flywheel is exactly the same as used on the No.1½ (it weighs 9kg);

    aBP14.jpg common parts (spares)

    These: half washers, coupler nut, feednut & screw, feedwheel, and spindle, are all the same as used on the No.1½. I'll keep these as spares.

    aBP15.jpg other parts (of no use)
    The: crank bracket, yoke, spindle cog, crank cog, pillar and feet are surplus. I may re-purpose some (I have more than one post drill without a pillar - while the spindle cog may become a candle holder ).

    Cheers, Vann.
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    Must be almost time for the family photo!

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