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    I have just been told by someone in the know never to call a gear a cog. As a historical term cogs are wooden & gears are metal. So although these have been referred to as cogs in some of the information technically it was still incorrect.

    So I am guessing I should go back and change things again..
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    Your friend is a bit pedantic I reckon. A geared push bike has sprockets after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DSEL74 View Post
    There was different length spindles to allow for some changes in the bearings. Mspil the half washers were used to sit in the groove to hold the spindle in the coupling, and on yours I would say they have turned down the end to allow for the extra space needed to fit that bearing case in. I am certain now that it is a user modification.

    My thoughts run on similar lines. I am sure that my drill has been 'improved' by persons unknown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boringgeoff View Post
    Your friend is a bit pedantic I reckon. A geared push bike has sprockets after all.
    Sprockets are for chain transmissions.... gears transmit from one gear to anonother.... cogs are wooden gears as already mentioned (or a colloquial term for very old gears, like those ticking over in my brain ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhovel View Post
    ...or a colloquial term for very old gears...
    And the problem is....???? (I've not seen a very new post drill)

    Okay, "gears" is fine by me then (but I like old colloquial terms).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jhovel View Post
    Sprockets are for chain transmissions.... gears transmit from one gear to anonother.... cogs are wooden gears as already mentioned (or a colloquial term for very old gears, like those ticking over in my brain ).
    When I was a truck driver and came to a hill I'd have to "drop a cog or two" to get over it. I doubt that anyone would have thought of wood on hearing that statement. As kids when one of us got a bike "with gears" we knew what that meant as well.
    My original comment to DSEL was to make the point that his parts list is perfectly understandable as it is.

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    As promised DSEL74,
    these pics are of the 611 Dawn at the 'Hill'.
    The last 7 are of the Buffalo Forge in the 'boneyard'
    I'm still yet to do the measurements etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steamwhisperer View Post
    As promised DSEL74,
    these pics are of the 611 Dawn at the 'Hill'.
    The last 7 are of the Buffalo Forge in the 'boneyard'
    I'm still yet to do the measurements etc.

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    From our research that is a latter version of the 611 towards 1950



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    That table rest locking bolt has a sliding rod, I haven't seen that before..Mine is a "S" shaped fixed rod on the A 611.


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    Is that a welded repair??


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    My A611 top feed wheel looks so much more like this!!


    Thanks heaps for the photos….But I think there are a few more post drills at the Hill!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steamwhisperer View Post

    The last 7 are of the Buffalo Forge in the 'boneyard'

    DSC_1952.jpg DSC_1956.JPG DSC_1957.JPG DSC_1958.JPG DSC_1962.JPG DSC_1964.JPG DSC_1966.jpg
    That Buffalo looks pretty similar to the one I inherited from my grandfather a couple of years back. Its on my list of things to give some attention once uni wraps up for the year. Its originally out of my great grandfathers forge but I always remember it in grandads workshop at the farm so it a keeper for me, just got to find a replacement actuator arm, the original disappeared long before I was born, or maybe fabricate something in which case any measurements of one off of any drill would be a great starting point, one hand for power and one to advance the depth is a tad awkward for my liking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charlie250393 View Post
    That Buffalo looks pretty similar to the one I inherited from my grandfather a couple of years back. Its on my list of things to give some attention once uni wraps up for the year. Its originally out of my great grandfathers forge but I always remember it in grandads workshop at the farm so it a keeper for me, just got to find a replacement actuator arm, the original disappeared long before I was born, or maybe fabricate something in which case any measurements of one off of any drill would be a great starting point, one hand for power and one to advance the depth is a tad awkward for my liking.

    P1010004.jpg
    It is similar but they are different models.. You can clearly see a different design in the coupler, or lack of. Not to say the missing parts wouldn't be close enough to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DSEL74 View Post


    Thanks heaps for the photos….But I think there are a few more post drills at the Hill!
    Oops, how embarrassing. I completely forgot about the one in the 'town' blacksmiths.
    Annoying news that our Dawn 611 is close to the 1950's as that means it will have to be removed from public display. Bugga
    I will look up in the wheelwrights as well and see if they have any hidden away.
    I am not sure if there is any up in the main stores but I will check there also.


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    You got this one



    What is the criteria for age there???? The Dawn 611 was made from 1920-1950 the design changes on yours date it in the later, it has all the latest features.
    Does that mean I can display it here
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    The rusty one has been on ebay for a while and is way over priced in my opinion (as is it's friend). I notice that the actuator arm is there but removed.

    On both of the drills one of the belt drive wheels has been replaced with a fly wheel yet the shaft is extra long, even longer than if it was to take the two belt drive wheels.


    The red one also has an interesting chuck, it is the same diameter as the spindle and seems to be longer than usual.

    Thanks for posting.
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