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    I did this faceplate build a while back , I don't think I ever posted it on this forum , I did post on a couple of others though.

    It started of with me spotting this old Sparrow sanding disc ? if that's its correct name , on ebay . It didn't sell with a price of $50 from memory, but I made contact with the seller and was happy with what I saw when I went and looked at it ,To his surprise I offered him $70 and made a friend . He was a giant of a Biker type bloke who had a whole yard of collected gear of all sorts . He showed me around the rest of his collection and it was interesting stuff .
    I took the Sparrow back to work and it was not about to spin , I gave the Babbit bearings a clean up and when it did turn I found I had a good 1/2 inch wobble in the disk . I'm thinking DAM and I gave him an extra $ 20 lol .
    I reckon at some stage someone threw it out as rubbish of the back of a truck and it bent the shaft just behind the cast disc.It had a broken foot as well.
    I have a friendly engineer who I gave it to and he turned and fitted a new shaft for it , the bearings were scraped and with a squirt of grease now and then she goes well.

    Rob
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    I then had to raise what I had up to a suitable working height , be able to bolt it down and fit a motor at the back for the belt drive.
    I welded up steel reinforcing so that it could also hold 14 threads that stick out of the cured block at precise points. This took a bit of work to get right !! there are the 6 for the Cast iron Sparrow that had to be spot on , 4 for the motor mount and four out the front for holding on tool rests and a hook at the back for when I have to move it . We also made up form work which was leftovers from a large french provincial Style TV cabinet that Had come in for being reduced in size , some of the moulded corners in that were there to be used for nothing . That gives the formwork a complex looking contruction that wouldnt normally be done. When the concrete was poured we used a small air powered jack hammer as a vibrator on the sides of the form . lots of bubbles came to the top doing that . Cracking it open the next day was good fun
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    Once the Sparrow was bolted on I found out it needed some bracing , so the sturdy X brace was made and bolted in. we layed a small level pad to put it on and moved it to that and screwed it down with a fine sand and cement film in between. Its as solid as Ayers Rock.
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    The VFD is mounted on the wall I have a dust collection system that works with it as well ,and the diameter of the plywood is 800 mm . The center is about 1100 off the ground so in theory I could spin 2.1M I don't think that will ever happen.
    There are a few more pictures of form work and jigs that were made for holding threads in place for welding.

    The table out front of the lathe is a Wolfenden chisel or chain mortiser base fitted to a base with a way we made so the base can be wound in or out . The table top can also be moved in or out and left and right , and the whole lot can go up or down . This is just for machining radius dishes , a guitar Makers tool, with another machine that rolls from left to right on the table . it will also allow machining with a router as a work piece spins .That could be good for dished table tops .
    That whole table set up can be taken off , and the next step is for a tool rest for free hand turning

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    Lovely work.

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    That's fantastic lots of great ideas

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    Rob,
    when you make something like a functional tool, and add that extra flair, it adds a whole other dimension to the thing.
    It's a treat to look back at the pictures of the making.
    Great effort.
    Cheers,
    Peter
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    That'll make some nice big lazy susans, I'm sure you'll be able to sell some to the Chinese Restaurants
    Nice work by the way. Love the fancy form work
    Kryn

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    Rob - I really like the use of concrete for the base, and some nice design details too. Very well done.

    There was a post recently (can't remember which forum) about setting up small metalworking bench lathes for maximum precision, that cited a wartime reference, where a steel and concrete base was recommended.

    I doubt that a Sparrow with such a ball and chain will take flight any time soon !!

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    Very impressive.
    Do you need to worry about the motor filling with dust?

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    Im happy your all enjoying the view Gents Thanks .

    I have even been coming back for second and third looks , the images have been in storage a while and I hadn't really studied them for a while. This much building took three years . we would work away on the woodwork and every few months do three or four days on the lathe . Me and two other guys at times. The whole thing will get a coat of Black paint one day . Im pretty sure Ill do it Flat acrylic Black . I intend to Guard the belts at the back .

    Another possibility I may do with it is mount a second motor . I scored the same type of old motor as the one on there which has a reduction gear box fitted , it does about 40 to 1 rpm and was used to drive an old Organ out on stage at the Brighton theater in the old days for intermission playing to the audience , I was told that by the seller . the 40 to 1 would be good for machining with the router.

    Lazy susans ?? LOL

    Dust in the motor is not a worry so far. when Im doing MDF dishes the dust sucker takes 98% of it to the bag , its very efficient . It sucks just behind the cutter . Mdf as you probably know is very messy stuff , a little build up happens when I do lots of them . Its the sanding at the end that causes it . Im wearing a mask and have the fan going strong as well. Its under a lean to out back which makes it OK when the weather is nice.

    Rob

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    A lot of thought going into this build, Rob. I'm guessing there's been quite a bit of satisfaction also?

    Wayne
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    Yes Wayne, I did get some Satisfaction doing this . There is more to do though , a few more stages to go .
    Here is a video I took when I first got it running.

    Rob


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    Great video Rob -thanks for taking the time to post it

    I really like the old GE motors, and the mounting / tensioning arrangement you've designed (bars on edge, pivoted on a shaft) looks great. The weight of the motor I'm sure provides plenty of gravity assistance in establishing initial tension!! I had wondered about the compatibility (high freq., insulation etc) between these old GE's and VFD's (and you've got a gold plated VFD there in the SEW), but looks like it works really well.

    There's a lot to like in this build. Design, proportion, materials and execution.

    Regards
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    Thanks John .
    Yeah I like the old motors . I got that one out of a bin at a high school My mate was working on . It ran the air conditioning fan . I was kicking myself that I didn't grab the fan as well for a while. It was a big long squirrel cage one and I let it go .
    I was planing on a way to tighten the tension for the belt , there is only one on it in the pic but I have two on now . Gravity does the job though and I don't know if I need to tighten it . I wonder If it's safer for me and the machine that way , having them loose ? I once jammed up my Goldie copy lathe and if it wasn't for the belts slipping the machine would have broken some gears.


    Rob

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