Thread: Three mitres.

Originally Posted by macg

Matt,

if you have a close look at the rear holes in the feet brackets you'll notice they are threaded to take a pointed levelling screw (part #141 I think) once these are in place the stop tree can be used without causing the problem you currently have.

Nice job on the restoration hope to see pics it finished soon.

Graham

Hi Graham,
Sorry I’m one step ahead there but they are hard to see in the picks,


But my ones are flat bottom, not pointy !!!

Cheers Matt,

Matt,

your reply made me take another look at your photo again, and yes the adjustment screw is there.

So my advise was not required, sorry about that, I need to look before I leap.

I had a look at a couple of boxes that I have (it's been a while since I last looked at them)
and found as you have that the tree when in place is lower than the feet.

Makes me think it was designed that way, it would be better for the tree to be
proud, then use the rear adjusting screws to make it all good.

I've included a couple of pictures, one is a scan from an instruction sheet describing
the screws function, the other is a screw from one of my boxes to show the 'pointed' tip.

I also found some of the screws on other boxes are flatter, maybe worn down from use???
and that the knurled portion is of different diameters.

These mitre boxes have had so many variations in their design, patents and parts over their evolution
that they require some bright spark with a lot of time on their hands to do a type study.

Now that would be a publication that I'd be happy to pay for.

Graham.

Thanks Graham,
Please absolutely no need to apologise here.
Especially around my self and Mr Bush Miller I think we would both frown apon it.
It’s only because you pointed them out, pun intended lol.
That I went looking harder at my pictures.
And thanks for the scans I’m keen to get back up to my cool room (shed).
To have a look at the other mitre boxes now.
A type study would a great read, I won’t unfortunately be the one typing it out.
Which is a good thing [emoji849].

Cheers Matt

Looking good Matt!
CAn't help with the height difference.
Is the rear adjustment screw long enough to level the base with the stop attached?

Originally Posted by hiroller

Looking good Matt!
CAn't help with the height difference.
Is the rear adjustment screw long enough to level the base with the stop attached?

That actually is a very good question “is the rear adjuster screw long enough”
That I will have to check on the weekend when I’m back in the cool room.
I still can’t get my head around the rational of the design tho.
I understand what Graham is saying about the screws leveling the box.

Cheers Matt.

Matt

these mitre boxes have had a fair amount of thought gone into all the different aspects of their design.

My observation is that there was ability to level the four feet with the rear levelling screws but, as the tree was
just a simple casting and to avoid extra production costs with adding adjustment ability, it was cheaper and
easier to make it taller and use the adjusting screws.

Hopefully there is a description of its use in an old manual that some one can locate and post and we can then dismiss my dopey explanation.

Graham.

Maybe something like this, courtesy of ToolTrip, hosted by Stan Faullin
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Originally Posted by macg

These mitre boxes have had so many variations in their design, patents and parts over their evolution
that they require some bright spark with a lot of time on their hands to do a type study.

Now that would be a publication that I'd be happy to pay for.

Graham.

Graham

The International Tool Library may be of use and it is free. Just register.

The Stanley Marsh picture framers

https://archive.org/details/StanleyM...tureFrameTools

5 or 6 Stanley tool catalogues here

https://archive.org/search.php?query=Stanley%20tools

Langdon

https://archive.org/details/LangdonM...oPricesOfParts

Millers Falls (6 catalogues)

https://archive.org/search.php?query...0falls%20tools

Goodell Pratt (6 catalogues)

https://archive.org/search.php?query=Goodell%20Pratt

A scan of the US Ebay for "Vintage Mitre Box" brought up about 350 listings, mainly Stanley. It may show examples with bits you didn't know about.

Regards
Paul

Paul

thanks for showing all the links but like you, I too have found that site and have marvelled
at the great number of manufactures catalogues just a button push away.

For now I have found it is enough to just stick with the Stanley products before jumping
on to any other manufactures, space is always a problem.

There is another American tool forum that I frequent and I have just spent weeks going through
2995 replies to a thread titled 'mitre box of your dreams', and it had a wealth of information
going back and forth with members much like we do here 'down under'.

Gaham

Originally Posted by Simplicity

Which Stanley Mitre Box

I'm in the position of having three mitre boxes.


Cheers Matt

Matt,

It's been nearly 3 months since you started this thread, I'm keen to see how the #246 finished up.

Also have you had a chance to have a go at the other two?

Have you found the identity of the 'unknown' box?

Graham.

Originally Posted by macg

Matt,

It's been nearly 3 months since you started this thread, I'm keen to see how the #246 finished up.

Also ,have you had a chance to have a go at the other two?

Have you found the identity of the 'unknown' box?

Graham.

Graham,
I didn’t realise I was cracking such a fast pass on this one [emoji849].
Unfortunately ,we have had quite the last 5 weeks,we have attended 3 funerals, but could of done a fourth funeral, had one tooth pulled and put back a planed holidays by 2 and half weeks.
Most of this ,was all on my wife’s side including the dead tooth.
But ,I would say ,we have seen quite a bit of road miles to boot.
But ,I will take your gentle push and see what I can get done on the 246 this week ,as we are now in Ballarat enjoying some fantastic rain and wind.
(We work in Melbourne during the week and my workshop is in Ballarat hence I don’t get all that glorious evening time in the shed)

The unknown box is still suffering and identity crisis.

Moan rant and winge over with.

Cheers Matt,

Matt,

sounds like you have had a lot on your plate lately,

it's funny how we some times have to allow other life happenings
to be elevated above tool related items. (I mean no disrespect)

and it must be frustrating having your time shared between 2 locations.

I reckon I may be able to help you with the mystery mitre box.

Graham.

Originally Posted by Simplicity

Most of this ,was all on my wife’s side including the dead tooth.

Matt

As Graham said, a lot on your plate and please forgive me being slightly irreverent in mentioning the following story ( I try to keep this side of my personality hidden, but it is not working).

It was in a Tarzan film, which one I don't remember except that I think Jock Mahoney was the actor. Anyhow Tarzan has to complete a strength test, which he easily does in resisting the opposite pull of two water Buffalo with him in the middle. The he is subjected to an intelligence test. The question is "What thing would you check on meeting a foe after a journey of a thousand miles?" tarzan thinks for a bit, as he is a very considered sort of a bloke, and then replies:

"I'd make sure it was the foe who had traveled a thousand miles."

Nice work with the tooth!

Regards
Paul

Ps: Commiserations to Sally

Originally Posted by macg

Matt,

sounds like you have had a lot on your plate lately,

it's funny how we some times have to allow other life happenings
to be elevated above tool related items. (I mean no disrespect)

and it must be frustrating having your time shared between 2 locations.

I reckon I may be able to help you with the mystery mitre box.

Graham.

Hi Graham it can be frustrating living away from my toys at time.
But as a famous cop killer once said in Victoria such is life.
I would be very interested to hear anything you have on the un loved un know Mitre Box.
Please share!
Live seems to be settling back down to normal now for both of us (We have commenced some hoildays at home)and I spend some time on the 246 Mitre Box today see below.

Cheers Matt