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    Default Three mitres.

    Which Stanley Mitre Box

    I'm in the position of having three mitre boxes.
    Yep lucky I know now none of the three are in great condition.But all three can and hopefully will be brought back from being just dust collectors on the shelf in my creative zone.
    Over time
    But ,in a brave decision and following along in my move to get my stools(not the sitting type)in order in my creative zone.
    Two are Stanley Boxes ,one is model no 246.
    The other one I've yet to gather much information on ,but would be a much younger model.
    So ,two questions ,first anybody know of any good on line reference.?
    I haven't been able to gather anything decent.
    Two ,which box would you restore first.?
    Now both boxes from what I can gather look pretty much complete.
    In that I can't see anything obviously missing.
    The older mitre box does have a little more rust.
    But ,it also would be the box I'm leaning more towards restoring first.


    The young gun.

    The older guy.

    And finally the unknown one



    My apologies for the very average shots.
    Cheers Matt

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    Matt

    Some quick links:

    C:\Users\Paul Brittan\Pictures\Saw Catlogues\Stanley Mitre Box 1910.png

    This link may be better:

    https://archive.org/details/StanleyToolsCatalogNo.34

    This is from 1958:

    https://archive.org/details/StanleyToolsCatalogNo341958

    This is the link to the general Stanley catalogues:

    https://archive.org/search.php?query=stanley%20tools

    This is the overall link to the Library of Tool catalogues:

    https://archive.org/search.php?query=stanley%20tools

    I am not quite sure how they will open up for you which is why I have listed so many. I am not sure if you have to register, but if you do it is very worth while and I recommend it.

    Within the Stanley catalogues, look for Mitre Boxes in the index. Stanley is quite good for indexes unlike some other manufacturers I could name.

    Regards
    Paul
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    Bushmiller;

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    In case you are busy working but curiosity is getting the better of you, this is from the second catalogue on the list above:

    Stanley Catalogue No.34 p96.jpgStanley Catalogue No.34 p97.jpg

    I am not sure which year catalogue No.34 was produced. I will have to do some more sleuthing (that's sleuthing, not slothing ).

    That particular catalogue has quite a few other mitre boxes too.

    Regards
    Paul

    PS: How are you off for mitre saws?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    In case you are busy working but curiosity is getting the better of you, this is from the second catalogue on the list above:

    Stanley Catalogue No.34 p96.jpgStanley Catalogue No.34 p97.jpg

    I am not sure which year catalogue No.34 was produced. I will have to do some more sleuthing (that's sleuthing, not slothing ).

    That particular catalogue has quite a few other mitre boxes too.

    Regards
    Paul

    PS: How are you off for mitre saws?
    Paul dear fellow, You have truly come up trumps,more trumps than any US president I know.
    I run a company of course ,I'm not working [emoji849].

    For pushing your own agenda.
    I've now placed you another three steps higher on the stair way to heaven.

    Sun Tzu ,Would be so very proud of you.

    Very kind and delightful thoughts
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    Matt

    I need to revisit Sun Tzu as I can recall much of his philosophy on enemies but not too much about friends. One thought occurred about the unidentified mitre box is that perhaps you could post a pic on the lettering on the towers or posts or whatever they call them. If it is a patent number it might give some clue. Having said that, there is a patent expert I have in mind, but it is not me. He may of course be "rolling" around in the upper echelons of society and be unavailable for the mitre box minions. He is, however, your man on this aspect.

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    As you wish,
    The pics of the unknown warrior, or in this case unknown mitre box lol.


    Paul I've been drooling over the catalogues there fantastic.

    Cheers Matt.

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    Have a look around here
    https://patents.google.com
    …..Live a Quiet Life & Work with your Hands

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    My initial go-to for patents is DATAMP - Directory of American Tool and Machinery Patents where entering the date 15 March 1904 resulted in US Pat No 754625 Justus A Traut. The second date 2 August 1904 gave us US Pat No 766384 and 766790 both to Francis H Richards. Both these gentlemen were employees of the Stanley Rule and Level Co.
    My next step then would be to go to https://www.uspto.gov/patents-applic...search-patents and look those three patents up and read them to determine what the two patentees claim as their invention.
    Hope this is of some help,
    Cheers
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    There will be a slight delay now in the completion date.
    Due to some weekends being loosed to other activities beyond my limits less grasp.
    Work O well more time for some research.[emoji41]

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    There will still be a slight delay in complete the mitre saw box, tho I'm not sure how there will be a delay with no fixed finish date[emoji849].
    Any way, due to wet weather in Melbourne today I cancelled work for the afternoon as it was removing a old window and replacing it with a new one, I don't do them in the rain [emoji849].

    So we scooted up to the steel palace and I had some creative space zone.
    First job was building a parts board, so all the little bits and bobs don't get lost and roll all over the place.
    This involved fetching one sheet of white chip board 1200/600 mm from the board collection zone lol.
    Attaching some square pine timber stuff from the square pine timber storage section around the edge.

    Next was the dismantling of the bits and bobs that go into making a model 246 Stanley mitre Box.
    Luckily there were no mayor issues except one small one.
    All the screws came loose relatively easily and to be honest that was quite a pleasant surprise.



    Now the little bit, off did you think you would walk this one in Matt.[emoji849]
    Yep one small screw in the main bench(box)casting is off its head literally[emoji849].Pun intended
    So that little bugger will be drilled out and i will try to obtain a replacement.
    I will also see if I can get a bottoming tap to clean the hole up.
    Hopefully we can get a measurement off the other screw as the these are the ones that hold the board stops in place.
    Unfortunately I've read often that Stanley liked to use very weird thread types.
    Any way he's staying there for now I will tackle him one weekend when I'm here next.

    But I did get this cleaned up before the temperature dropped below freezing point and I'm going in side while I can still use my hands to turn the door handle.


    Some casting marks.

    Cheers Matt,

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    Matt

    That's starting to look really good. I like your "parts" board. Excellent idea. I could have used that a few times in the past to prevent tiny pieces disappearing into the dirt floor! I will make one or two up in different sizes.

    Regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    Matt

    That's starting to look really good. I like your "parts" board. Excellent idea. I could have used that a few times in the past to prevent tiny pieces disappearing into the dirt floor! I will make one or two up in different sizes.

    Regards
    Paul
    Yes the parts board comes in handy, use to use them all the times on cars makes it very easy to see everything.
    Cars have quite a few bits lol.

    Also Paul a picture for your eyes only,
    I'm leaving the saw till last,but do you recognise the medallion.
    And I think this saw is to young for the mitre box ?

    Sorry no better pics of the saw apart from this one.
    And it's freezing out there [emoji47]

    Cheers Matt

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    Matt

    All I can really say is that is a genuine mitre saw and not just a large backsaw. Your mitre box was intended for a 26" saw (tooth edge should be a touch over 24"). I think it is probably a Stanley saw, but Stanley did not make their own saws. It would have been one of the dedicated saw makers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushmiller View Post
    Matt

    All I can really say is that is a genuine mitre saw and not just a large backsaw. Your mitre box was intended for a 26" saw (tooth edge should be a touch over 24"). I think it is probably a Stanley saw, but Stanley did not make their own saws. It would have been one of the dedicated saw makers.

    Regards
    Paul
    This saw is going to be a sticking point.
    I must do some more research.
    I'm sure it's from my younger mitre box saw.
    So ,the main problem I have with this saw is ,and do be fair it's not the saws fault or even Stanley tool works.
    It's who ever designed the handle in the first place
    Because ,when you look closely at the mitre box it self ,it has some redeeming features a few curves subtle but there there.
    See the handle is just butt ugly .
    Yes I can be a tool snoop and yes if I try really hard ,I may be able to sort out a hopefully well in my eyes more approachable

    Cheers Matt

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