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    Talking Stanley mitres

    Well a couple of things. The length/size of the saw has no bearing on which mitre box models you guys have. Disston sold them in various lengths and also depths of the blade. These were supplied to Stanley to sell with the boxes. All the Disston No.4's had apple wood handles. (also 11 points per inch crosscut teeth).
    The saw trip on the mitre box needs the corresponding attatchment on the saw. Many are missing in the wild.
    In the pictures, both mitre guides have cut-outs in the back fence for the sliding stock guides.
    If there are holes at each end in the sides of the back legs, they would also have originally come with a rod with length stops attatched.

    Hope that this all helps.
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    Spoinky ,
    Mine dosent have the feet with the holes for the stop rds ,but it does have a circular metal plate inlet into the cutting board ,which has a 1/4' thread in the centre .
    Im still trying to fathom what purpose this served ,there is no mention as what its for in any of the brochures for the mitre box ,but it is shown in the spares list.
    Maybe it is possible that it was part of the stop rod set up, like a support from underneath.
    I have just received my timber for a new board ,so I will be be fitting that this weekend.

    Im wondering how Prozac is progressing with his.
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    Too embarrassed to respond.

    prozac

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    Prozac,

    Here's the finished mitre box on my bench .Don't mean to embarrass you further ,but I'm quite please with the end result.
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    Wow Woodlee that is really something! Better than new. I will have to read through again to check your procedure. What type of timber is that on the cutting board? I will have to get a copy of your template.

    prozac

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodlee View Post
    I'm quite please with the end result.
    And so you should be, it looks great fantastic result.

    Mike

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    Beautiful job Kev.
    What wood did you select for the bed?
    It seems to match the mitre box very well.
    I've got a Stanley 2246A, and I can't find any info on it at all. It is a later model than yours with telescoping saw guides.
    Did you happen to come across any reference to it(mine) in your research by any chance?
    Onya mate - yours looks great
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    Thanks guys .
    It was a lot of work but I enjoyed every second of it .Its a joy to use and very accurate.

    The timber is Tassie Oak I think , I got it a pile of second hand timber from a demolition sale.

    Prozac I can make a template for you ,just let me know when you are ready.

    Scribbly ,I can e-mail the Stanley instructions in a PDF file if you want them .

    I'm still wondering what the little round metal plate in the board is for ,I haven't been able to find any info on it or its purpose .

    Kev.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodlee View Post
    Spoinky ,
    Mine dosent have the feet with the holes for the stop rds ,but it does have a circular metal plate inlet into the cutting board ,which has a 1/4' thread in the centre .
    Im still trying to fathom what purpose this served ,there is no mention as what its for in any of the brochures for the mitre box ,but it is shown in the spares list.
    Maybe it is possible that it was part of the stop rod set up, like a support from underneath.

    Cheers
    Kev.
    Looks like a spot for a rod that could mount a hold down for the small offcut on the right hand side of the cut. Of course this could be totally wrong.
    Thanks for the offer of the instructions Kev. I'll send you a PM.
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    Nice work Kev looks great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scribbly Gum View Post
    Looks like a spot for a rod that could mount a hold down for the small offcut on the right hand side of the cut. Of course this could be totally wrong.
    Thanks for the offer of the instructions Kev. I'll send you a PM.
    Regards
    SG

    I'm thinking its a support for a length stop ,but my box dosen't have the bushes cast onto the feet brackets to take the length stop rods .Maybe its as you say or a short stop ,I dunno .
    I'll probably go to my grave still wondering what the hell its for.
    Sent some e-mails to the guy who has the tool-trip website asking if he knew , but he has never replied.
    The original board is very light timber ,very soft as well ,I think it is Western Red Cedar or maybe Red Cedar. Bit hard to tell unless I cut it ,if its Western Red Cedar I will recognise the smell immediately.My Father has used Western Red Cedar extensively through out his house for feature walls etc and I know the smell .

    Cheers
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    G'day gentlemen,

    Hope you don't mind my jumping into your conversation. I am new to this site and read with interest your messages regarding the restoration of the Stanley mitre boxes. I have a Model 358 with two 28" back saws. Everything is complete and in "like new" condition. OOPS! I almost forgot, the coupler for the stop rods is missing along with the two screws that go with it. No big deal, I have a South Bend metal lathe and can easily make those parts. I don't know the age of it, but I do know who owned it originally (now deceased). Any idea when Stanley stopped making this item?

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    Jay ,
    Definitely not interrupting ,I like talking about old stuff .
    I'm not sure when Stanley ceased production of the older models , but I do know they continued to make them for many years .
    The model I have was patented in 1901 I use it often as I find it is very accurate.
    A few weeks ago I dropped the saw and busted the handle ,have the material now to make a new one for it.

    In 1944 they were offering 7 models of Mitre box ranging from the 240 to the 460 .
    I guess as they made improvements and newer models the older ones were phased out.
    I have PDF flies from Stanley mitre box catalogues which I can send to you by e-mail if you would like.
    Just pm me with your e-mail address and I'll send them on.

    This link is to a website that has information on Stanley mitre boxes and other tools that they produced .Unfortunately the website is not working atm , but hopefully it will be operational in the future.
    Have you any pics of your Mitre box you could post ??

    Kev.
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    G'day Kev,

    Thanks for the quick response to my questions regarding the Stanley mitre box. If you are referring to the catalog pages converted to PDF by Stan Faullin, I already have them. If you have something else, I would appreciate having them. My email address is [email protected].

    I don't have any photos at the present time, but when the weather breaks so that I can get back into my shop, I will take some and post them for your viewing pleasure. This mitre box is like new. Not a spec of rust anywhere (including on the saws). I don't know why there are two saws with it, but I sure don't mind owning them. The interesting thing about them is that they are identical except for the design of the handles. Interesting!

    I also need to see if I can figure out about when it was manufactured. Should I be able to find a date somewhere on it or on the brass name plate? Any thoughts?

    By the way, I am a retired university professor who has been in love with woodworking and woodworking tools since I was six years old. I am now 72. Google me if you care to learn more.

    Regards,

    Jay

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    Jay ,
    Looks as if you already have the PDF files I'm referring to there are three in total .
    I attached them here so you can save them from here if you want them.

    Sounds like you have got a good find there .I think these tools were more popular in the US than here ,I'm guessing they may have been a bit on the expensive side for most Australian cabinet makers of the time.
    The do appear on Ebay here occasionally ,unfortunately I live in a small town in the bush where tool shows and flea markets are non existant so I dont get the chance to visit such events to pick up bargains.I'm limited to Ebay unforunately.

    My background is in metal working and engineering ,but I like woodworking as well .I do have metalworking facilities as well as woodworking .

    Kev.
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