Thread: Stanley - Marsh 100 Mitre Machine

Graham

I particularly like those mitre box/picture framers. I have a Marsh example that has no mention of Stanley so I am guessing that makes it an early model assuming Stanley bought them out. However, I have not looked into these framers in any detail so I will be most interested to hear the differences you have observed.

The ppi of that saw is unusual. As a general rule they were all 11ppi (and all crosscut), although a very few are 12ppi. That is the first I have seen at 15ppi! I note that although the handle looks clean, the saw looks well worn down. I wonder if it has been re-toothed, possibly on a machine, and for the purpose you have described of fine finishing.

Regards
Paul

Paul,

I have brought out the older mitre machine for a comparison. There are quite a few 'improvements' that I've noted.

Firstly the overall appearance and quality of the early casting is more elegant and refined with rounded corners and shapely reinforcements.

The pat. date 07-01-8 refers to Elmer E. Lutzhoff inventor of the detent springs inside the saw guides, these detent springs enable the saw to
be held up while the stock is placed in the clamp for cutting. On the later unit the pat. date is no longer shown.

Also on the base reference to Reg. U.S. Pat. Off. has been replaced with Made in USA

The are no embellishments on the early model which has a wide fence but the later model has the Stanley brand name plus no 100 added to the top
of the clamp, also the fence has been narrowed to allow an imperial increment rule to be screwed on.

The thread on the clamping screw has changed from L to R hand and the thread angle increased for faster rotation.

The early model has two gauges, one to prevent the saw from cutting into the bottom of the casting the other for depth of cut such as a half lap joint.
The later model has just the single gauge but with serrations to do both jobs.

The later model now has bearings for the edge of the saw back to ride on.

The early model has just a single pin to locate the extension ruler, whereas the later model now has two pins.

I have also found online a much later model which is a different colour again plus it has extra parts that fit onto the clamp when cutting smaller and thinner stock
and a stop that affixes to the extension ruler. Finally the box it came in and packing timbers.

Hope this has been of interest to you.

Graham.

Graham

Here is my version:

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There is no yellow; Just reflection from poor lighting.

H.C.Marsh

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Rockford ILL (Illinois)

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I think the patent date is 8/89 which coincides with pat. 408,248 for a combined mitre box and picture frame clamp.

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Fundamentally the same as the No.100, but less refined.

Regards
Paul

Paul,

it looks like you have one of the very early original Marsh units, followed by my early unit then in 1926 along came Stanley with my blue unit probably a mid 60's one.

At the moment I'm making a couple of extension rules for my two before they go into storage.

Graham.

Hi my name is Matt,

I currently have four mitre boxes and constantly looking for more.
I’m regularly on EBAY at three am looking at pictures under the covers.
Or have been know to sit on the toilet for an hour with my pants done up.
My family have asked me to join this group as they feel this is my last only chance.
Is there a 7 step program I can join,


Matt [emoji849][emoji849][emoji849][emoji849],

Just sore this on eBay [emoji849]
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...2F163062633598

I notice there is a Stanley-Marsh Catalogue on the Archive.org Tool Catalog site.
https://archive.org/details/StanleyM...tureFrameTools

hiroller

thanks for the link for the catalogue, I've seen those pages before somewhere they are now down loaded and stored for future reference.

In all the years that I've been collecting I've noticed that these types of items are rarely seen, compared to the regular mitre boxes,
that is why I was seen to be almost running when I spotted my latest unit all complete, no damage including the saw laying on the ground at the swap meet.

Graham.

Matt,

you only have 4 mitre boxes, hmmm

are they the same or different models?

By all means keep looking for more mitre boxes but you shouldn't loose any sleep in your quest.

Graham.

Originally Posted by macg

Matt,



By all means keep looking for more mitre boxes but you shouldn't loose any sleep in your quest.

Graham.

I guess that rules out viewing Ebay under the bed covers at 0300hrs!

Regards
Paul

Originally Posted by macg

Matt,

you only have 4 mitre boxes, hmmm

are they the same or different models?

By all means keep looking for more mitre boxes but you shouldn't loose any sleep in your quest.

Graham.

Is this some sort of on line grooming thing, I’ve heard about this sort of stuff.[emoji6]
Two are Stanley’s one is unknown and one is high up on a shelf and the the shelf is very high for a lazy Sunday afternoon.

The most interesting model for me at present tho is the 246 Stanley sweetheart model.
Currently being restored I’m running a thread here but can’t figure out how to share it.[emoji849]

Cheers Matt

Matt

I was merely trying to find out why you have 4 mitre boxes,

was 1 not enough?

do you require more, so that they can be used for different set ups?

are you running some sort of trial to find the best mitre box produced?

is there some sort of mesmerism happening that you cannot control?

Graham.

Graham

I think Matt is just cruelly saddled with an addictive nature. I can think of at least one other in this desperate predicament as I also have four mitre boxes (it was only three at one point), but wish to plead the Fifth Ammendment on the subject.

Regards
Paul

Paul,

so are you in the same (I have 4 mitre boxes) boat as Matt?

I'll have to go down the shed and count how many I have, to see if I can join you guys

or I may need a bigger boat???

Graham.

Graham

Matt and I are in different boats, but unless you saw them together they would be close to indistinguishable. If you go for a larger boat I would be prepared to offer my services as a deck hand as my boat is becoming overloaded.

Regards
Paul