Thread: Stenner Alert

I don't think he's seen it yet

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Cheers, Vann.

Alli,

So I logged into the forum, I could write several paragraphs on what occurred next, but this probably explains it best.



And you you said Matty was Evil.

Seriously though, thanks for pointing it out, that looks to be a very good example, very very nice!

I am off to cry a little more.

cheers,

Camo

Originally Posted by camoz

Alli,

So I logged into the forum, I could write several paragraphs on what occurred next, but this probably explains it best.



And you you said Matty was Evil.

Seriously though, thanks for pointing it out, that looks to be a very good example, very very nice!

I am off to cry a little more.

cheers,

Camo

But, but, but it's not even an ABM!!!
It's some funky later model that no-one's ever heard of!
You have the true Holy Grail, that thing is just some Johnny Come Lately!

There, does that make you feel better?
No!
I didn't think so!

Have fun,
Alli

What a machine! No mention of any attachments though, which I think it ought to have a compliment of for that money. I'll go and get it for you next week Camo, if you want it. Tempted?

Good heavens, I'd die for a machine like that!

Any ideas on the cost of freight to Australia and degree of difficulty, folks?

Raymond.J.B

Originally Posted by Allison74

But, but, but it's not even an ABM!!!
It's some funky later model that no-one's ever heard of!
You have the true Holy Grail, that thing is just some Johnny Come Lately!

There, does that make you feel better?
No!
I didn't think so!

Have fun,
Alli

No Alli, that is an ABM, even has its Achilles heels intact (the hand wheels), these in my opinion were a poor choice made by Stenner, most are broken, so for both to be intact suggests this saw has been taken care of, or the extension table kept forklift drivers away. Holly Grail, not quite, it's missing some things, but it's the closest I have seen so far.

Evil as you may be in showing me something so far out of my reach, there are some good photos there, of things I have only seen in books, so it was worth the pain of knowing I couldn't have it....lol

Thanks for thinking of me Alli, I have a list of things to do this week, so I probably would have missed this.

Originally Posted by sion.dovey

What a machine! No mention of any attachments though, which I think it ought to have a compliment of for that money. I'll go and get it for you next week Camo, if you want it. Tempted?

Yes, they certainly are asking a pretty penny, I don't see the double mitre or mitre.

How I would love to say grab it for me, but unfortunately I'm not writing this post from the deck of my waterfront house, waiting for my personal helicopter to arrive. I could only imagine the money I don't have that I would need to ship even parts of that machine....lol.

Cheers,

Camo

Originally Posted by woodlogic

Good heavens, I'd die for a machine like that!

Any ideas on the cost of freight to Australia and degree of difficulty, folks?

Raymond.J.B

Raymond,

I am glad others share my passion for such a machine. Here is some more info on this saw, in case you have missed my shouting from the rooftops.

This is the only image I have of the Stenner ABM with the extension:



Here is a thread I did when I restored my Stenner ABM (might give you an idea of what is under the hood), it was in much worse shape

https://www.woodworkforums.com/showth...67#post1705667

The thing I most admire about this machine is the oversize of everything, it's not built to last just one lifetime, here is an example of what I am talking about by the mass of this machine

https://www.woodworkforums.com/attach...6&d=1346669295

This is the nut in the tilt mechanism, it weighs 1.7kg

But ultimately apart from having a sliding table the two main things I love about this machine, are the lack of vibration, and the mass and micro adjust feature of the short fence.

Here is my video showing a 5 cent piece sitting on the fixed table (I point to it at the end) as I start it up, make some cuts with the sliding table and turn it off. That 5 cent piece didn't move, I could have put it closer, but the air from the blade kept blowing it over (it's a fairly intimidating rip blade). The crosscut fence is just something I made up to make the cut safely so disregard it, also I realise their were issues with safety (lack of a complete overhead guard), but I felt comfortable in the cut. Dust collection was also not connected, and the side cover under the table for the blade shroud was missing, so this didn't help with air and sawdust material above the table.



My real love, and what gives me joy everytime I use it, is the fence

https://www.woodworkforums.com/attach...5&d=1370598956

https://www.woodworkforums.com/attach...7&d=1370598956

weighing in at 76lb it is a behemoth, but to my eyes beautiful in design. It is surprisingly easy to move along the table, and once locked down it is solid as a rock, and has the ability to make the finest of micro adjustment of over 1", basically if your not sure, you can make a cut oversized, and then make an adjustment to take fine shavings off down until you have a perfect fit. The short fence, combined with the riving knife (not a splitter) means the off cut can't get trapped between the fence and the blade after the cut has been made, and the cut can't close.

Can you tell I am fairly happy with this saw, mind you, I paid probably less than scrap value and didn't ship it half way around the world and my previous experience was with modern entry level cabinet saws, so one might say I could be easily impressed.


Cheers,

Camo

Originally Posted by woodlogic

Any ideas on the cost of freight to Australia and degree of difficulty, folks?
Raymond.J.B

Raymond, on the Canadian forum we did recently learn what it cost to have a Wadkin Thicknesser shipped door to door from England to Canada - roughly a grand and a bit on
https://forum.canadianwoodworking.co...in-Thicknesser

Originally Posted by sion.dovey

...we did recently learn what it cost to have a Wadkin Thicknesser shipped door to door from England to Canada - roughly a grand and a bit on

CAD or UKP?

Cheers, Vann

Sorry, forgot to mention, that was UK Pounds.

Originally Posted by camoz

No Alli, that is an ABM, even has its Achilles heels intact (the hand wheels), these in my opinion were a poor choice made by Stenner, most are broken, so for both to be intact suggests this saw has been taken care of, or the extension table kept forklift drivers away. Holly Grail, not quite, it's missing some things, but it's the closest I have seen so far.

Evil as you may be in showing me something so far out of my reach, there are some good photos there, of things I have only seen in books, so it was worth the pain of knowing I couldn't have it....lol

Thanks for thinking of me Alli, I have a list of things to do this week, so I probably would have missed this.




Yes, they certainly are asking a pretty penny, I don't see the double mitre or mitre.

How I would love to say grab it for me, but unfortunately I'm not writing this post from the deck of my waterfront house, waiting for my personal helicopter to arrive. I could only imagine the money I don't have that I would need to ship even parts of that machine....lol.

Cheers,

Camo

Hi Cam,
Recovered yet? Or is this going to be one of those deep seated long lasting traumas?

They advertised it as an ABN so I assumed it was a later model with a slightly different designation.

Nice saw, pity about not having the quadrant and mitre gauges, to some people that makes it barely usable but I'm sure you could cope if it was dropped in your lap.
If I win the lottery that saw is yours.
How's that?
All you have to do is buy me the winning ticket!!

I'm sorry for the pain but maybe it'll be OK in the long run as it could inspire you to make some of the missing bits, The whole extension looks pretty solid. I don't know that I'd ever use it enough to warrant taking up that space permanently but I guess it would depend on the work you do.

It looks like it's been well loved as i'm sure yours does.

Have fun,
Alli

Originally Posted by Allison74

Hi Cam,
Recovered yet? Or is this going to be one of those deep seated long lasting traumas?

They advertised it as an ABN so I assumed it was a later model with a slightly different designation.

Nice saw, pity about not having the quadrant and mitre gauges, to some people that makes it barely usable but I'm sure you could cope if it was dropped in your lap.
If I win the lottery that saw is yours.
How's that?
All you have to do is buy me the winning ticket!!

I'm sorry for the pain but maybe it'll be OK in the long run as it could inspire you to make some of the missing bits, The whole extension looks pretty solid. I don't know that I'd ever use it enough to warrant taking up that space permanently but I guess it would depend on the work you do.

It looks like it's been well loved as i'm sure yours does.

Have fun,
Alli

Haha Alli,

Yes I am over it. Honestly I would take a double mitre and mitre over the extension table, but nice to see one out in the wild.

Raymond,

Much as I love my Stenner, there were many other companies in the day making well designed and made sliders, and of cause non sliders. They might not come up for sale every day, but we have seen enough to see that with patience and diligence, one could acquire a nice saw for far less than it would cost to purchase and then import something from another country.

Cheers,

Camo

Originally Posted by camoz

Haha Alli,

Yes I am over it. Honestly I would take a double mitre and mitre over the extension table, but nice to see one out in the wild.

Raymond,

Much as I love my Stenner, there were many other companies in the day making well designed and made sliders, and of cause non sliders. They might not come up for sale every day, but we have seen enough to see that with patience and diligence, one could acquire a nice saw for far less than it would cost to purchase and then import something from another country.

Cheers,

Camo

Camo,

Perhaps I should take a page out of your chilled and patient approach! For the past three years I've been looking for the three basics: planer, thicknesser and dimension saw - all hopefully by Wadkin, Robinson, Sicar or Stenner. And you know what, no luck! In fact, currently on my search I've purchased a Wadkin LM borer, Wadkin DR bandsaw, Robinson TH morticer and Wadkin CQ docking saw. Hell, I've even got a Wadkin bench top manual miter trimmer! But no darn planer, thicknesser or dimension saw. I've seen a few about, but unfortunately either missing original parts or a bursgreen model (I'd much prefer a straight Wadkin). My old Australian counterpart machines will have to suffice for now. Hopefully I'll find what I'm looking for in the near future...

Regards,
Raymond.

Hi Raymond,
You'll be surprised when and where those machines will pop up. My Pickles saw came from Brisbane so there is good old machines lurking in your neck of the woods. There was an old Wadkin RS and a Pickles lathe at the same sale. There was also the only Wadkin Universal woodworker, the first pattern mill, as well.
So it will knock on your door when you are least expecting it.

Have fun and a little bit of luck,
Alli