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8th July 2023, 08:18 PM #1
Type 11 Stanley No 5, Doggie Frog Edge
Doggie leading edge of frog,
Should I be concerned about the leading edge of this frog, it’s fairly chipped, but I can’t actually see it hindering the use of the plane.
An too be honest if I put a sharp blade in the plane an put it too use it would do what it’s indent too do,ie make that lovely whoosh noise we all love when planning timber.
The blade an chip iron are still going too bed down ok on the frog, it just looks ifffff, an it annoys me [emoji849], I’ve stripped the frog back to a bear casting as I intend to give it a lap on my diamond stones, so that will automatically take care of some of the chipped edge but not all of it.
The frog on the right is from a latter model but shows the difference between the edges of the frogs.
This thread could possibly be from someone with mild OCD issues
Cheers Matt.
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8th July 2023, 11:07 PM #2
It’s just a little on the fugly side; that slight chipping on the very edge will have no effect on how the plane works. Once the blade and cap iron are fitted only you will know it’s there…
It’s purely a cosmetic (or mildly CDO) issue; if you like you can “repair” it with JB Weld; that will stop it hurting your eyes any time you see it.Nothing succeeds like a budgie without a beak.
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9th July 2023, 09:54 AM #3GOLD MEMBER
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Stop looking at it and it will go away!
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9th July 2023, 10:37 AM #4
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9th July 2023, 11:49 AM #6SENIOR MEMBER
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Hi Matt,
just build a bridge and get over it....
go for a walk in the bush and listen to the birds chirping....
life is to be enjoyed...
Graham.
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9th July 2023, 11:56 AM #7
Just to digress a little.....it would be nearly 50 years ago that I, as an Apprentice, bought a Stanley 4¼ at the beginning of my life's work collecting tools. Straight out of the box I could wind the blade out but ran into "backlash" when winding the blade in so it always had some blade hanging out. I fiddled about with he position of the frog as well as the bolt that the adjuster nut runs on. I could not get it to function as it should.
I remember I took it to my TAFE teacher to have a look at, but he couldn't do any good with it either. I don't remember exactly how I got it to work but I did send a letter to Stanley, they were manufacturing in Tassie back then. I managed to bugger the adjustment bolt and they supplied a replacement for free.
While I was "fiddling/fettling" I found another problem which should have been found by Quality Control and that was the cap iron when placed into its position had a gap of 1mm between the blade and the lever iron. This led to the shaving you made while pushing the plane got "bogged" at the intersection and clogged up. I fixed that problem by lapping the end of the cap (I remember it was soft and filed very easily) to fit snuggly
It was a long time ago and I did manage to rectify the whole problem some how. As I said the factory was in Tassie and maybe there was an unhappy employer not doing his job properly and it wasn't very long that Stanley went back to the US.Just do it!
Kind regards Rod
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9th July 2023, 12:32 PM #8
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9th July 2023, 01:49 PM #9
CH…
It seems that the later ones did need a bit of fiddling, from what I’ve been told, an it’s a shame Stanley let things slip too that degree.
Also for anyone who is interested I’ve been watching this YouTuber Of late .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEZH-PQTJZE&feature=youtu.be
Cheers Matt.
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9th July 2023, 01:57 PM #10
Ok
I’ve got over my vanity(For the immediate future[emoji849]), listened to all the wise comments, an had a marvellous time with some Petrol an matches an burnt the Bridge down.
One frog lapped with some 120 dry on my lovely piece of Marble.
I clean it up a bit more an get some paint on it, but not today bit cold for painting outside at present.
Onwards an sideways.
Cheers Matt.
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10th July 2023, 08:41 AM #11GOLD MEMBER
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Nice Matt. What paint are you going to use?
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10th July 2023, 08:55 AM #12
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13th July 2023, 07:07 PM #13
A little update, just pacifying my OCD a bit, it needs some attention sometimes, one coat of Etch primer one light coat of spray putty a quick bake in front of the fire, followed by two heavy coats of spray putty, this will then get a rub back with some 320 dry, an I will see how flat it is, it may need another coat of spray putty?.
Then it will be on too getting the frogs body closer too it’s gloss black paint job.[emoji41]
For those about too say, but you didn’t mask off, no I didn’t an I don’t I feel I get a better result an cleaner lines by removing the paint later by scrapping it off carefully, it’s not a big job an it’s not a big area.
Just my preference.
Cheers Matt.
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13th July 2023, 10:50 PM #14GOLD MEMBER
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Looking good. Those patent dates stand out nicely
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14th July 2023, 01:01 PM #15
I’m just going too leave this hear.
Because I can [emoji4].
Cheers Matt.
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