Thread: GIS New Hampshire build

Welcome to the forum! You've come to THE premier platform for specific build advice and starting your own thread was the smart thing to do. I enjoy the GIS Facebook page too, but it's no substitute for your own dedicated thread.

Most of us have doubled up the 6mm ply where rudder hardware attaches and yes, the lower one will poke through beneath the "aft seat" or buoyancy tank top. It sounds like your tank top is already installed. That may point you to adding an inspection port on top near enough to the transom to allow placing the mounting pad and securing the hardware. If you really want to get distracted/sidetracked, you can plan the port to be large enough and in the right place to add later the parts needed for a mizzen mast. Forget I said that.

Some folks are adamant that ports do not belong in bulkheads. I put them in the bulkhead to accommodate the use of Bottleport(tm). However, I also arranged my supporting stringer to allow for a top hatch for storage (in the distant future).

Good luck. Come back often. Enjoy your Goat!


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Howdy Beaton1

Thanks Dave for the excellent reply.

The only thing I would add is that the fittings are bolted through and a doubler IS a good idea.

it doesn't need to be very big .. slightly bigger than the base of the rudder fitting on the other side out of 6mm ply - maybe an inch (25mm deeper and same wider. I did design the boat without doublers any many have had no problems but some have had minor cracking which can be avoided completely with small doublers.

And welcome! You have a few Goats not tooo far away!

MIK

Thanks for the messages. My seats aren't installed yet so I will put on a doubler for the rudder hardware next. Glued in the mast step and partner last night.

I've seen some of the threads related to the mizzen modifications, Dave, but I am going to stick to the single sail plan and try to keep moving towards getting the boat completed!

Bruce

There are a few of us nearby, Christophe in Concord area, I am in Arundel/Biddeford/Portland and Paul in CT. There was another Goater in your area. Welcome!

Northeastern goats almost sounds formal

MIK

Thanks for the welcome, Clint. I've seen your posts on various websites and have a few photos of your Goat bookmarked for reference. We were up your way today at our first Sea Dogs game. It was warm out there in the sun and a little sea spray from a boat would have been really welcome! I've also read a fair number of Christophe's blog posts. It seems that he has really been putting his boat through its paces.

I've been trying to do a little to the boat each day to keep moving forward, although today was all baseball. I've got the seats glued down and flushed up to the bulkheads and the rear two frames glued in. One more up front to fit and glue and it's on to the gunwales.

I'm beginning to look at the end game for finishing. I'm working in our barn so heat is not really an option. Any recommendations for a target date to get paint on the boat before it gets too cold? End of October maybe? I was also wondering if you or Christophe might have a recommendation for a place to acquire a trailer in the area. My friend purchased one for his Jon Boat at Dover Marine so I might start there.

We'll see how our boat comes out, but I'm not sure it'll fit into any formal Northeast Goat regatta. My son couldn't believe I actually owned a tie the last time I put one on!

I have picked up two trailers at Haggets Marine in Concord, I got the Load-Rite 15' for the Goat, and reconfigured the bunks to run perpendicular to the trailer with cut-outs for the skids. Seven hundred bucks but I didn't feel like shopping around for a used trailer and then doing work to it. I'm not sure your location but I think most places will be comparable, like Dover Marine, Green's Marine in Hooksett, etc. Just make sure you can adapt it easily for the boat, since every single trailer widely available to us are pretty much designed for powerboats. You can always got the Craigslist used way too and probably save some money.

The Goat Regattas are very formal. Forget the tie, it's black tie only. We are a serious high-browed bunch. Also, bring your own sailor, we watch from the committee boat.

Originally Posted by Beaton1

I'm beginning to look at the end game for finishing.

As long as you're finished in time for the yet-to-be-planned 2014 North American Northeast Invitational Goat Gathering and Somewhat-formal Regatta/Clambake/RumFest. I think the extent of formality will be whether or not you swig from the flask with your pinky extended.

As for trailers, I think my next move is to buy a Harbor Freight 4' x 4' trailer (on "sale" for under $200) and modify it with an extended tongue/center rail with a pair of diagonal braces. I saw such a set-up at Woodenboat Show this summer and it really caught my eye. (I think I posted a picture in my own thread, GIS Build in New Jersey).

Some trailer stuff here too.

Boat Trailers | Storer Boat Plans in Wood and Plywood

MIK

Thanks for the input. A clambake/rumfest sounds good to me. I'm also not sure if I want to fool with a used trailer. Although for the money it may be that a used one might come with an aluminum skiff, which is what I should have bought 3 years ago instead of deciding to build a boat. At least that's what my wife would say. Working on gunwales tonight I hope.

If I can offer any advice, it's not to go the box trailer route. Because of its size (not weight) the GIS is much more easily handled on a low trailer, which facilitates one person loading and unloading. I originally used a box trailer, but the height was problematic and made handling a job for two fit and strong people.

Here is an early file pic of Hakuna Matata sitting on it's new galvanised "Easy Trailer". These are cheap and come delivered in a flat pack. I only had to make the front bunk. The rear pivoting bunks make loading and unloading easy as they tilt as well. I just back the trailer down to the water and when the tyres touch the water, I stop. Launching is a simple matter of lifting the bow and sliding it off into the water. The rear bunks are fixed so that the hull skids fit between them, so the boat is self-centering when loading. The long tilting bunks provide excellent support for the hull. I found I didn't need the winch.

Loading is the exact reverse, and I could easily manage this by myself.

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Welcome Beaton and hello friends,

I would put in a +1 for the harborfreight 4'x4' super cheap trailer with a lengthened tongue. I have put several thousand miles of Goat towage on one of these little babies in the last 2 years and it goes like a champ. The wheels are small, and the deck is low, so I havent had any trouble with loading/unloading, and it is light enough that it can basically be used like a boat dolly if you aren't towing. Plus at under $200 the price is right.

Also I know I've been more than out of touch with my fellow sailors here on the forums of late, but I want to know more about the yet to be planned 2014 Goat-Together. I have my blue blazer hanging, my seersucker slacks pressed, and a gin ant tonic ready to sip! Where shall we hold these shennanigans? I was recently at a friend's wedding on Cow Island in Casco Bay Maine just a stones throw from where the intrepid Christophe took me sail-camping not long after finishing his IAZP, and before I had my own vessel ready. The view of little Chebeague brought back warm memories of cold sailing. I owe you a tot of rum my friend...

How does the Goat crowd feel about Casco Bay Maine for a meetup? I know my own beloved Periwinkle wants to bathe in salt water again.

Cheers,
Al

Al, you scurvy dog! You MUST see my latest blog entry...

All this gathering talk makes me want to dust off the Gathering Thread so that poor Beaton1 can get back to building. Back at it man! There will be no gathering for you without a Goat!

I'm working on it! And think it is realistic to have a Goat ready for a gathering next season. You guys should be having it now, though, with this weather. It's unbelievable!

I picked up a used jointer and planer this evening. Good deal and I'm now rigged to mill the inwales and other parts yet to be. Sort of an unplanned purchase that cut into the trailer funds. Could you guys point me to a link with photos or expand on the Harbor Freight set up with the longer tongue? Are there any other differences between a utility trailer and a boat trailer with the wheel bearings, lights, etc.? I need to be able to launch the boat single handed. I imagined I would back it down the ramp and slide it off into the water.