Thread: Goat Island Skiff

A quick question for people who have bought the plans.

I am getting them but want to know whether to get the electronic version or pay for the hard copy.

If there are lots of colour photographs, or colour in general then I will buy them. If there are no photos and lots of line drawings I will go with the download.

Do you need to have the book open in front of you or laid out on the ground while you work or do you just read it online and then print out the page you need for that bit of the build?

If I buy the hard copy and cover it in epoxy can I get a back up? Does the hard copy come with a downloadable version?

Ideally I would like a downloadable copy now and a hard copy when it comes to the build, I could just point the monitor into the carport I suppose.

Thanks

Mark

I don't want to speak for Mik, but generally, you would be wise to make a "shop" copy of the plans. Typically this would include the construction drawings, sail and rigging plan, etc. Stuff like the materials list or epoxy use tips and tricks wouldn't need copying, as they would be "absorbed" in your growing information base about the build and referred to from time to time, but not necessarily at your side during the build, like the construction drawings are. A lot of people get the key drawings (construction, rigging, etc.) laminated in plastic sheeting. This can save some headache if you spill your coffee on one.

Of course these shop copies are to be used only in your work space and not distributed in any fashion.

I ordered the pdf version of the plans, because I have the ability to print large format drawings here at the office. I have only printed (1) 8-1/2x11 set so far and I keep it in a 3 ring binder. There are only a few color pictures and would work in black and white too.

I call it my Instruction Binder. It stays with me out in the shop and I reference it all the time. I have put color coded tabs on the sheets I need to reference. There are some steps that require flipping back and forth between the instructions and the detail drawings.

I take it to the lumber yards too and use it as a shopping list and a point of discussion when it comes to wood types that are locally available.

I also am keeping a 2nd binder with tabs concerning topics and pictures, I call it Building Tips. I have found that as I read something in the forum of interest, I print it out then and there and add it to this 2nd binder. I have topic tabs for Building Tips, Rudder Hardware, Sails, Finishing and Construction Pictures. The pictures are of others GIS's at different stages of construction. This helps me visualize the instructions.

I also keep a few pictures of completed boats as inspiration. I have one here at the office and 1 in the shop.

Since I am building my GIS with my kids the pictures give them a great visual reference.

Don’t forget to build a scale model of the GIS before the real thing. It helped us a great deal in understanding the instructions and getting use to the Queen’s English, since we speak a different language over here in Texas.

Look for Texas GIS in the forum.

Welcome aboard!

Howdy,

John mentions "large format" which can make some of the drawing pages easier to read. But printed at US Letter or A4 they work fine too.

You don't need to print the whole plan necessarily - it is quite a bit of printer ink - but most of it will be some sort of reference during the build.

Perhaps the heart and soul of the thing is the appendices which introduce many methods and cautions.

Particularly for those who haven't worked with epoxy efficiently before. The appendices can potentially save huge amounts of epoxy, not to mention labour and heartache.

Best wishes
MIK

Cheers, I was mostly concerned with lots of colour photos that wouldn't come out in black and white. I have an A3 printer which I can use for the large diagrams and a laminator for the pages that are likely to see a lot of use or get soaked in epoxy/coffee.

I can get the printing done cheaply in black and white which will give me something to read in bed and something to annotate as I go along with the build.

Ebooks can be fantastic, especially when you add additional content like videos, audio files, hyperlinks etc, and as they are not for printing you can add hundreds of large full colour pictures of the design process, more of an e-encyclopaedia ! I don't think that will be necessary though as I have already seen sets of build pictures for 3 GISs already!

Cheers for the advice.

MArk

I have tried to set up the colour pictures so they come out OK in black and white, fiddling with the contrast etc.

Should work ok on most modern printers. I do have in mind that ppl will keep a copy of the PDF accessible on the computer so that the colour pics can be checked on the few occasions that something is a bit ambiguous.

MIK

For those with facebook ... a very nice set of videos from Mark Harvey in the UK.

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He is flying the nice McNamara sail and the boat is being sailed by Chico Noelli - who is a Finn sailor.

You can see in the both the vids and the still pics the boat is in perfect trim. A bit more downhaul methinks, but that is the only flaw.

I don't know if the pics will work from facebook





MIK

Tut tut, those woosie Poms with the padding on the gunwales... Must admit the thought has past my mind

Something else that I've contemplated is the rope traveller over the transom. This looks to be working quite well on Harvey's boat. I'd really like an adjustable traveller one day as my brother jury rigged one on mine and it made an enormous difference to our pointing ability. However, we decided that there were too many ropes around the tiller to make it safe, but relocating the traveller to the transom opens up possibilities. I might give that a try...

They just like their comfort.

"Built for comfort, not for speed" - doesn't need to be a compromise

Clinton Chase had his second yearly talk at his boatbuilding workshop in Portland, Maine last weekend.

Afterwards they went sailing - with a couple of dories and the Goat Island Skiff.

Now the Dories do have quite a bit of weight aboard and canoe sterned boats are often very good at maintaining good average speeds.

But the Goat does move on out. It is one of the boats with the white sail a bit further out - it is Christophe's boat that normally lives in New Hampshire.

You can see a gust approaching (dark shadow on the water) and before the gust hits the Goat is moving well ... and after ... it just moves on out.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inR4hhpY56w]YouTube - Fall sailing in Maine[/ame]

Michael

Some time ago there was a guy building a GIS from the back of a van overlooking a great stretch of water. I can't find the thread. Anyone remember it?

Just wondering if he ever got it finished?

This guy:

Planing Around

Haven't heard a thing, too bad, it looked like a beautiful project.

https://www.woodworkforums.com/f169/h...ml#post1121248

You guys must have some kind of amazing Goatdar for detecting building activity. Sorry for falling off the edge of the earth, or at least forum. Lots of crappy (mom passed away) and great (sister had a second baby) personal stuff plus tons of work travel got in the way of building all summer so the build got shelved. However it's looking like things are settling down a bit so this past weekend I organized the parts and restarted. Stay tuned I'm reviving the thread and build!

Welcome back Simon. Great to hear things are getting back on track and you're taking advantage of some remaining warmer weather.