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    Clint,

    Thanks for the kind thoughts. And thanks, too, for the suggestions on doing the interior with a clear finish, and the link to the SystemThree site. I will certainly give that serious consideration as I decide how to finish Karen Ann. I do like the look of the clear finished interior.

    Michael,

    Thanks for the welcome and your thoughts about naming a boat. Often a name comes after spending time with a boat, but in this instance the name came first. I, too, think it is a great name, and the GIS will be a fitting tribute to Karen.

    To be sure, I will be asking questions and seeking advice as this project moves forward.

    Thanks again.

    Bob

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    Default Got my sail today!

    Woo-hoo!! The mailman just delivered my sail!

    Back when I started this project, I was naive enough to worry that I'd have a completed boat before I had a sail to put on it. Hah! (You can tell it is the first boat I've built.) No more worries on THAT score. I'm more concerned that it will be cold and icy here when I want to make the maiden voyage. Still, it's fun to have the sail in hand. One step closer....

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    Paulie - remember the rigging details for lug rigs are on my webpage ... here

    making lug and sprit rigs PERFORM

    And the single biggest advice I can give is look carefully at the postion of the sail relative to the mast on Gruff on those pages.

    Also, except in really light winds ... you can never have enough downhaul - it is a big part of the performance of the boat.



    MIK

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    Gotcha! Thanks. It will be some time yet before I can put your advice to work, but I'll tuck it away for that day.

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    Exactly what I hoped for old bean .. and the link can catch people on the way through as well!!!

    Keep mixing that glue and drop in from time to time to give us a yell about how it is going too.

    Best wishes
    MIK

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    Where do people usually put the inspection ports for the buoyancy tanks? On the tops of the seats or through the bulkheads? I was planning on putting them through the bulkheads. But now I'm wondering how I'm going to be able to access one going through bulkhead 1, what with the mast supports and such in the way. TIA.

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    I hate to bump this thread, but I kinda need an answer to my last question soon. I'll be closing up the buoyancy tanks within the next couple of weeks. Thanks!

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    Well bumped Paulie,

    We did the original goat with them in the bulkheads. Have to watch the size of the ports will fit on that face for the rear tank.

    For front tank in the face but to the side of the mast so you can get in there.

    It is not really very useful storage space except for light gear. Heavier stuff goes more nicely under the mid seat as it damages the sailing performance much, much less.

    Michael

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    On our GIS, we have two screw-in circular plastic hatches in the face of the aft bulkhead for access to the aft flotation chamber. We keep a ziploc bag with our boat registration card in there, and a few other light items. We have a less-than-full-height divider about 2/3 of the way back to keep stuff from sliding all the way aft and becoming unreachable. This divider also holds the flotation bladders snug against the transom. The bladders provide flotation even if the chamber is holed and flooded. For the ultimate HowTo article on flotation, see my Duckworks article:

    http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/06/...ders/index.htm

    For access to the forward chamber, we have a single, larger hatch in the top. We located it forward of the forwardmost bulkhead and just to the side of the mast partner. All three are opened the first dry day after each sailing outing, or just during any hot weather, to air out/dry out the chambers.


    "We must beat the iron while it is hot, but we may polish it at leisure" -- John Dryden

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    Thanks, guys! Just the info I needed.

    I hadn't thought about using those locations for storage. I figured that the ports were just for drying the tanks between voyages. But I guess the forward one might hold a small drybag, a place to put wallet, cellphone, and camera. Thanks for the idea.

    arbordg, I followed your link. It made me laugh. We don't drink wine in our house either, greatly preferring our own homemade beer. The guys came over last weekend for the first brew session of the season (we don't brew in the heat of summer) and were dismayed to find a partially-assembled boat in the brewhouse (garage). They grumbled mightily about having to brew in the driveway. "You'd better get that damn boat finished before winter! I'm not brewing in the driveway with snow falling in the kettle!"

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    Funny article!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by arbordg View Post
    For the ultimate HowTo article on flotation, see my Duckworks article:

    http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/06/...ders/index.htm


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    Hi all,


    gladly I can tell the start of another build of a GIS, this time in Germany.

    Have started with cutting ply, I am deeply impressed with the exactness of the dimensions given in the plans. To get really smooth curves, I haven't planed to the lines, instead I fixed the fairing batten inside the nails, clamped it down (having it previously pimped up with some spikes every 100 mm or so) and after removing the nails employed the router with copying bit to cut to the batten. Nice result and quick.

    Next days (as far as weather improves, in the moment we have 4°C in the evening) I will precoat the ply with epoxy, in the meantime planing of the foils is on the shedule.

    Parallel I've started with spars and centrecase. Building the rectangular hollow mast, some thaught struck me: why not hollow spars as well? The boom should go rectangular as well easy, but the yard should stay round for aerodramatics, so birdsmouth probably is the way to go. Lots of work, but reduced topweight is always worth a thaught.
    For I have no idea of the useful dimensions, I have started with solid timber.

    Mik, how do you think about hollow spars and their dimensions?


    Greetings from merry cold Europa - Jörn

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    I too will building B'mouth for the spars so will keep posted for some answers. I am still a little in favor of the look of the round mast, but appreciate very much the practicality of the hollow-rectangular spar. My Q is whether the rectangular mast makes any difference to how well the air flows across the sail...would round be better aerodynamically, even considering the low speed a sailboat goes?

    Clint

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    Quote Originally Posted by joern View Post
    Hi all,
    Parallel I've started with spars and centrecase. Building the rectangular hollow mast, some thaught struck me: why not hollow spars as well? The boom should go rectangular as well easy, but the yard should stay round for aerodramatics, so birdsmouth probably is the way to go. Lots of work, but reduced topweight is always worth a thaught.
    For I have no idea of the useful dimensions, I have started with solid timber.

    Mik, how do you think about hollow spars and their dimensions?

    Greetings from merry cold Europa - Jrn
    Jörn ... and welcome (for both you and Germany!!! Though I did have to cut and paste the umlaut in your name!!!)

    I don't think that birdsmouth is of much value for the yard or boom. Their diameter is already so small and to get the same flexibility it will mean a difficult and "fiddly" (difficult to manipulate) job for very little benefit.

    The MAST is an excellent candidate for birdsmouth! It has proved to be very reliable in its two different forms. I would think that you could make a birdsmouth mast the same diameter as the existing round mast and it would be completely adequate.

    I would suggest that it is a tapered birdsmouth to match the aesthetics of the boat.

    It sounds like you have done some sailing too! "reduced topweight is always worth a thought!". Does this mean you have a racing background?

    Best wishes
    Michael

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