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16th May 2007, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Ziff  The maiden sail was fantastic, this skiff was far better than I had ever imagined and the lightest boat I have ever sailed, just glides through the water with very little effort. | Stephen,
Welcome to the forum and to "the club"!
It's really great to have someone else who understands my raving about the thing!
Cheers,
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17th May 2007, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Ziff Hi everyone
Newbie here, just found this forum a few days ago and been reading a lot of it. I have just finished building the GIS two weeks ago which was a 10 month project, this is my first ever post so I hope these pics turn out. Im sorry I dont have any pics of the maiden voyage, in all the excitement someone forgot to take the camera what a dope.
My biggest problem at the moment is what to name it?
If I knew about this forum I probably would have taken more pics of the build however only have a few.
The maiden sail was fantastic, this skiff was far better than I had ever imagined and the lightest boat I have ever sailed, just glides through the water with very little effort.
I will post some more pics of the next sail if I can remember the camera.
Regards
Stephen | Howdy Stephen,
Great looking boat!!! Thanks for putting the pictures up.
The only thing that I can see is with the sail. It needs to go a little further up the mast - maybe 150mm and move the boom slightly forward - maybe only a couple of inches.
Make sure the block (pulley) on the yard is about halfway.
Great to have another boat on the water. Is it OK to use your photos and words on my website?
Michael |
17th May 2007, 06:37 PM
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Can anyone tell me if it makes any difference if you have the batton in place or not while reefing? |
17th May 2007, 06:40 PM
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I've never actually used a batten so the answer is a resounding no!
I should also say I haven't reefed either. The boat is relatively comfortable (with enough crew weight) in the high teens of knots, after that we're usually doing other stuff anyway.
We do have some pics of Mik in ours in probably 15knots (Mik to correct if he thinks I'm wrong) and he could hold it by himself, although that's close to the limit of comfort for a single hander. Two up, not a problem although I am referring to off the beach sailing, and reefing would have advantages if one was cruising home over a long stretch of water.
cheers,
P |
17th May 2007, 07:02 PM
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Thanks for the welcome and the setup advice I will try this out when I go out again probably on the 26 or 27th May, cant wait to go out again.
Don't know if you noticed that the mast is the new square hollow type. The only thing about a square mast is that you have to tie the pulldown to the mast or it jams and does not move freely, you can see in one of the pics how I have done so.
I am probably doing things back the front and did the harder project first but I was so impressed with the GIS that I purchased the Eurka plans last week and picked up the ply today so watch out for the build on the other thread site coming soon, will take pics this time. |
18th May 2007, 12:45 AM
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Howdy Ziff,
The battens have one really good use. If cruising they reduce the power the sail puts out by a fair degree. I found this out with my BETH sailing canoe which has the same setup.
I originally lifted the batten idea from sailing canoes from the 1870s.
If you want to go racing or just get more power pull the battens out.
I think both options work quite well.
Michael |
18th May 2007, 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Ziff The only thing about a square mast is that you have to tie the pulldown to the mast or it jams and does not move freely, you can see in one of the pics how I have done so.
I am probably doing things back the front and did the harder project first but I was so impressed with the GIS that I purchased the Eurka plans last week and picked up the ply today so watch out for the build on the other thread site coming soon, will take pics this time. | Most of the time the red lashing that you have used to hold the boom reasonably close to the mast needs to be quite loose to enable the boom to swing out on both sides. It even jams if overtightened on the round mast.
If you get the chance to get some pics of the downhaul jamming that might be interesting to see - I can't visualise what you have done or why.
I'm glad it has solved the problem though!
Michael |
18th May 2007, 07:29 AM
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I will clarify the Jam, It is the red lashing that is jamming not the pulldown and although in the photo the red lashing looks tight, it is not it has enough slack to move quite freely, what I found is that the boom is trying to move forward all the time and causing the jam, so when I tied the pulldown to the mast this holds everything from pulling forward and jamming does not happen anymore. I suspect the same movement could be happening to the other rigs and it may be worth a try even on the round mast.
I have not used the batten's as yet, conditions were very light in the maiden sail. I did not know they reduce power.
How do you insert other peoples quotes into the threads?
Youre up quite late, don't you ever sleep?
Regards
Stephen |
18th May 2007, 11:07 AM
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Ha!
Well designing boats is only part of it. To have a reasonable web presence I have to keep writing stuff and creating links on the web - so I do that from time to time. For example I put a link from my GIS pages on the website to this thread and I am about to do a link from my blog to the thread as well.
(another late night, eh!?)
Thanks for explaining the jamming - I understand now - and it is a neat solution. I will get round to putting it up in my rigging guide unless I can think of something even better - but I like the simplicity.
MIK |
18th May 2007, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Ziff How do you insert other peoples quotes into the threads? | Stephen,
If you look to the right hand side of the bottom of the post you'll see a button marked "quote". Hitting that will bring up a reply window with the quote already formatted, or you can use the tool bar above the reply box, where you'll see a little icon that looks like a cartoon bubble.
Or you can type "QUOTE" in square brackets [] before, and /QUOTE in square brackets [] after your quote. Quote: |
I can't type it as it would dissapear, like it did for this text!
| Cheers,
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24th May 2007, 06:11 AM
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Ziff - Looks like you did a fine job. Thanks for sharing the fotos |
24th May 2007, 06:41 AM
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Denny - If you'd like to see a completed version up-close, contact me. I have one here in Portland. It's very quick & dirty, but still turned out very pretty (he said, ever so modestly) Truthfully, that speaks more to the quality of the designer than of the builders. I built "Sisu" with my two teenaged sons and an old friend (who's an accountant with rudimentary woodworking skills). One of the reasons we chose this boat to build was because it looked to be a relatively easy build. That way, the boys and friend Jerry could do a good bit of the work without Pa (I'm a professional woodworker) fussing about the quality of their craftsmanship. There are a few fotos at Mik's site of Sisu - underway, powered by a small outboard. Now we have the sailing rig done. We'd be happy to show her off. |
26th May 2007, 02:57 AM
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Hi Dave, Thank you for the offer, if I ever see a trip south coming up I'll see if we can make it work, I've seen your boats pictures and it looks great, it also looks like your really getting some good use out of it. I was given a 14 ft Sharpie with a sprit rig and have been out in it a fair bit lately, I hadn't really sailed a light boat much before and it's pretty well confirmed the GIS should be just right for what I'm wanting to use it for. Denny |
7th Jun 2007, 04:38 PM
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Hi
Finaly located the build photos I have, took me a while to figure out how to resize them for posting.
These photos show a few different angles of when I was setting the mast in position to glue the partner in position, not sure if you can see in last photo the piece of timber holding mast to top of brick fence. As can be seen there are no gunwhales ,inwhales or seats yet, even though the middle seat is there but not glued ,just sitting there. I have a few more pics will post them soon.
Regards
Stephen |
8th Jun 2007, 12:48 AM
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Howdy Ziff,
Nice pics indeed!!!
I don't have any of that stage - so thanks
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