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  1. #106
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    Cool, thanks. Apologies for the mistaken identity.

    I'm back from camping so time to assemble the mast.

    Cheers Dan.

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    Glassing the mast is not necessary to the extent in the plan. It was overkill.

    50mm tape top and bottom to prevent splitting. And at partner (hole in deck) place two layers of 100mm wide glass around the mast to take the pressure and chafing loads.

    MIK

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    Cheers Mik
    That'll save a heap of weight and epoxy. )
    Dan

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    Long time no update.

    Well I managed to get a weeks leave finally and spent about half a day on the mast. I'm about half way through sanding it smooth at the moment, I should be able to finish our by the end of September. However I'm going to have to increase the size of the hole in the partner and step as the birdsmouth mast has come in at about 7-10mm over in terms of diameter (vs the size of the holes in the plans, though those are for the solid mast). I'm tempted just to enlarge the partner and reduce the size of the mast where it enters the step, as enlarging the hole in the step is going to be a right pain in the backside.

    Any thoughts?

    Dan out.

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    That sounds fine to me Dan.

    If you do like a round tenon (??? I mean do a step down in diameter) at the base to fit in the designed hole, then that is fine.

    You will need glass tape around the tenon as well as above that where the mast is not reduced in diameter - ie two places where it can potentially chip out. But go around with a layer of glass tape and it will be fine.

    Also we have been collecting data on mast weights. Need diameter at partner, timber species and weight if that is possible

    Cheers

    MIK

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    Thanks Mik

    I'll go ahead with the tenon idea then.

    With regard to weights, etc that'll have to wait a month or so as I'm once again away with work.

    I can't wait to finally get it underway with sail rather than oar. Rowing is fun for short distances but I built a sailboat for a reason.

    Dan out.

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    G'day again.

    It's been a while but I've finally got a few weeks at home. So back to the workshop then.

    I got a little distracted yesterday building this billy-cart with my son.

    (Though my daughter thinks it's hers)

    Mast tenon cut using a pull saw with tape set at 4mm to control cut depth, followed by a chisel for bulk stock removal and then sanded.


    To enlarge the mast partner I borrowed a trick from SCA whereby you stack the hole saws to provide a guide.

    The yard tapered 4 sides. Tonight I'll make it 8 then 16 sided.

    That's all for now.

    Dan out.

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  9. #113
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    G'day once again,

    Having recently finished building the goat (I've still got to make a mizzen for it) I think my wife thought I'd take a break from boat building. Well best laid plans and all

    Well you know how these things go. During a Sunday session last week a few friends and I decided we needed to go camping. As the intended campsite was near a river we might as well take a boat. The GIS was probably to akward without a ramp and big for the river/large stream, so maybe a canoe instead. Well none of us have a canoe or wanted to buy one. I know let's build one, a quick one at that. (this decision making process was lubricated with a couple of cartons of cervasa)

    Materials cost is about $250 (not including epoxy as I had some about the place)with mostly everything coming from the big green shed.

    I've used their marine grade plywood which is okay, definitely not as nice as the gaboon I used in the Goat but solid enough. It's about 12kg a sheet (6mm) and has veneers made of batu which can be a bit splintery.

    I've ripped the gunwales and keel out of a length of batu decking. All the other timber is "premium" radiata pine.

    I've used epoxy on the high stress bits as well as the filleting and a sealer coat. All other joins have been glued and screwed with purbond.

    Altogether it's taken the better part of 5 days to put together but most of that time is waiting for various glues/paints to dry.

    I haven't weighed it yet but I think it tip the heavier end of the QC scales.

    My five year old has declared it should be painted black with flames, who am I argue. I'll finish that part on Boxing Day.

    Some photos of the build are below.

    Dan out.
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  10. #114
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    Merry Christmas.
    I've finally got around to weighing the boat and it's come in at 60kg hull weight fittings included and about 80kg in sailing trim (spars, oars, etc). So not to bad despite enclosing the middle thwart, fitting a mizzen step and second mast step. That paulownia is great stuff.

    And now for some photos from the latest outing of the goat Undine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Capturethebeer View Post
    Merry Christmas.
    I've finally got around to weighing the boat and it's come in at 60kg hull weight fittings included and about 80kg in sailing trim (spars, oars, etc). So not to bad despite enclosing the middle thwart, fitting a mizzen step and second mast step. That paulownia is great stuff.

    And now for some photos from the latest outing of the goat Undine.

    Hi Cap.
    Are you sailing down Cockburn Sound way?
    Would love to get together for a Two Goat day.
    Im taking mine down to Denmark and Augusta for two weeks of camping/day sailing on the Estuaries in January.
    It would be great to meet up in feb.
    Wayne Poulsen
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    Sounds great Wayne. It'll be nice to get some photos of two Aussie goats out and about.

    I've found Palm Beach pretty easy to put in at, as you can walk the boat around from the ramp onto the beach to rig. Also no parking fees unlike Deepwater Point on the river.

    On other news I finished the QC including the requested paint job. Time to go camping.

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    How does your goat sail, Cap? (Or are you still too busy learning the ropes to give much of an opinion?)

    Reading your posts I got a sudden urge to build a quick canoe - seems like an easier project than finishing my goat! and a lot easier than any other project I've considered since I've caught the building bug!

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    G'day Poit
    4 outings in and I'm still learning to sail it and set the rigging correctly. On those moments when I manage to get it all sorted it just lifts up and flys. I'm yet to capsize it but I'm not pushing it.

    I went out on it yesterday arvo with one of my workmates in about 20-25kts with the first reef in. After I ditched the tiller extension and he moved up to the middle thwart it got considerably less emotional.

    We'll head out on Friday and see if we've learned anything.

    As to the QC it's heaps of fun and huge (easily took 2 adults and 3 small kids). I probably should have built it before the GIS as you learn a lot during the build which'll prevent mistakes on the GIS.
    If you do build it out of cheap marine ply you'll definitely appreciate getting the good stuff for the GIS. Particularly when solo car topping or portaging the QC.

    Cheers Dan

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    20/25 knots, that's quite a bit of wind. I'd be leaving the goat at home and pulling out the windsurfer in that sort of breeze, but it's good to know you can put a reef or two in and still go sailing in the GIS in a decent wind.

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    Gday again.

    Since the last post I've been out once more, much more successfully than last time. The rig is setting much better and while not flying we managed to average a conservative 5 kts over an hour, in 10-20kts of wind.

    However I've not been one hundred percent happy with the paint finish so I've decided to lay the boat up for the next two weeks and repaint it.

    I've been attacking it with my latest toy a 180mm sander polisher. Somewhat of a steep learning curve with it but I've got it sorted now.
    Just a few of the over zealous bits.

    I'm using the Aquacote system which is what I used last time round but with a few changes. When under coating I've tipped off after rolling this time as this stuff will not flow out at all (it does say so in the instructions). Tipping with a foam brush causes a fine grain like finish of the undercoat which takes a substantial amount of sanding to get smooth, still the result is better than rolling on its own.

    Spraying would produce a much better result (in particular for the undercoat)but I really didn't want to reconfigure the garage for it.

    Foils undercoated.

    Well back to painting.

    Dan out.

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