Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123
Results 31 to 39 of 39
  1. #31
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    'Delaide, Australia
    Age
    65
    Posts
    8,138

    Default

    Grrr .. wish this would keep the paragraphs and spacings when the bandwidth is not so good

  2. # ADS
    Google Adsense Advertisement
    Join Date
    Always
    Location
    Advertising world
    Age
    2010
    Posts
    Many





     
  3. #32
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Florida USA
    Posts
    337

    Default

    Regarding wider gunwales, I found a real nice 18ft long piece of Douglas Fir and it ripped into 6 equal 19mm wide strips so that's what I used. The stock gunwale is 1x19mm plus a 10mm hardwood cap. Mine is 2x19mm plus a 6mm Mahogany cap.

    Now, I'm not advocating anyone do this as it's not a MIK approved modification and if he wants to shut this down I'll meekly slink off to the little rock I crawled out from under.

    The gunwale is the focal point of the boat and I like how the extra 15mm of width gives it a bit more umph. I've never sailed on a Goat with a stock width gunwale but I find hiking out not too bad. Being a skinny guy I can use all the padding I can get and often use padded hiking shorts.

    There is an aesthetic downside to widening the gunwales unless you are willing to further depart from the design and tempt the wrath of MIK. At the bow, the wider gunwales now protrude further forward of the stem and if you cut them back to the stock overhang you end up with a very blunt nose. I let them run to a point and boy have I gotten a lot of comments about it. Everyone is scared of the pointy bow, but they all want to touch it. I like how it looks. You do have to watch it around docks and a T-bone on a crossing tack would be real ugly. Then again that maneuver is never pretty...

    Here's a recent photo showing the gunwale proportions. Pencil sharp!
    IMG_4669.jpg
    Simon
    My building and messing about blog:
    http://planingaround.blogspot.com/
    The folks I sail with:
    West Coast Trailer Sailing Squadron

  4. #33
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    NSW, Australia
    Posts
    474

    Default

    I'd just taper them towards the bow, so they weren't looking too chunky at the stem.
    You know you're making progress when there's sawdust in your coffee.

  5. #34
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    104

    Default

    Those wider gunwales look alright to me. I've been wondering whether leaving the inwales at 19mm instead of 15mm would spoil the aesthetics. Because I'll have to go to extra effort to turn 19mm wood I start out with into 15mm wood. (To get them thicknessed down to 15mm, I won't be going to the place that just charged me $22 dollars to thickness my rudder and centreboard, that's for sure! That's $264/hour by my calculation! And the other option is me ripping them up myself, and I don't always end up with a square bit of wood doing that.) Are they 15mm purely because 15mm looks better than 19mm?

  6. #35
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    NSW, Australia
    Posts
    474

    Default

    It's more likely the place that thicknessed your board charges in half hour chunks (ie: $44/hr). This is pretty much standard practice for a lot of businesses. Nobody actually charges 1/12 of an hour for five minutes of work.
    You know you're making progress when there's sawdust in your coffee.

  7. #36
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Savannah GA USA
    Posts
    583

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Poit View Post
    Those wider gunwales look alright to me. I've been wondering whether leaving the inwales at 19mm instead of 15mm would spoil the aesthetics. Because I'll have to go to extra effort to turn 19mm wood I start out with into 15mm wood. (To get them thicknessed down to 15mm, I won't be going to the place that just charged me $22 dollars to thickness my rudder and centreboard, that's for sure! That's $264/hour by my calculation! And the other option is me ripping them up myself, and I don't always end up with a square bit of wood doing that.) Are they 15mm purely because 15mm looks better than 19mm?
    I suspect 15mm bends a little easier than 19 and the bend inside at the sheer is going to be tighter than outside.
    The "Cosmos Mariner,"My Goat Island Skiff
    http://s176.photobucket.com/albums/w168/MiddleAgesMan/

    Starting the Simmons Sea Skiff 18
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/37973275@N03/

  8. #37
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    104

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by MiddleAgesMan View Post
    I suspect 15mm bends a little easier than 19 and the bend inside at the sheer is going to be tighter than outside.
    True. I'd rather bend 15mm around that curve than 19mm now that I think of it.

  9. #38
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    'Delaide, Australia
    Age
    65
    Posts
    8,138

    Default

    If you have to do it manually and get it right ... the 22 bucks is a bargain I would take every time!

    Glad that part is done. Onward!

    MIK

  10. #39
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Brisbane
    Posts
    104

    Default

    I went to a woodworking rental establishment, which I guess is why it cost "so much." I've never had to get any timber dressed, but I've always been amazed by how little the timber merchants charge to dress wood. $5/metre rough sawn, $5.50.metre dressed, or something like that. Because planing timber square and smooth is the hard part, to my simple mind.

    It's all the excuse I need to go out and buy a thicknesser next time! Bought an electric hand planer last weekend, because the belt broke on my dad's old makita when I was shaping the last corner of the daggerboard. Best thing I've done in ages! That grubby old makita must have been 30 years old! (Replacement belt on the way of course - it can be my metal detecting electric hand planer from now on.)

    Edited to add pic of grubby old makita and shiny new hitachi: PC111525.jpg

Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123

Similar Threads

  1. I am not Goat Man.
    By callsign222 in forum Michael Storer Wooden Boat Plans
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 27th July 2012, 03:04 PM
  2. Mutant
    By robbiebgraham in forum WOODTURNING - GENERAL
    Replies: 29
    Last Post: 1st September 2009, 12:10 PM
  3. The Goat Lug...another use
    By CCBB in forum Michael Storer Wooden Boat Plans
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 14th August 2008, 07:52 PM
  4. Mutant Tree
    By silentC in forum LANDSCAPING, GARDENING, OUTDOORS
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 15th June 2007, 03:31 PM
  5. What gets up my goat!
    By Waldo in forum HAVE YOUR SAY
    Replies: 27
    Last Post: 12th August 2005, 12:43 AM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •