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    Test drive with trailer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyboy View Post
    There are nice campgrounds in Jamestown
    Tom, I did a little more Googling based on your response but I'm coming up a little empty.

    Ft. Wetherill looks like an awesome place to explore and photograph; coastal artillery sites usually are! Their website doesn't make mention of camping though. It says park is open year-round from sunrise to sunset. They do have a boat ramp though.

    A review of RIparks.com shows that (State Park) camping is only offered at Fishermen's Memorial State Park, Burlingame State Park, And East Beach.

    Burlingame seems to be landlocked, but might work as a base for trailer sailing.
    Fisherman's also looks like it lacks water access (despite having some shoreline), and looks like another trailer sailing opportunity.

    East Beach looks like a no-go:

    --"Barrier beach camping is for four-wheel drive vehicles only!"

    --50 Vehicles - 30 Day Use & 20 Camping on the Barrier Beach || 96 Vehicle Day Use Parking Area || 8 Portable Restrooms || Driving on Barrier Beaches requires a Barrier Beach Permit. || All camping vehicles must be self contained and have a Barrier Beach Permit.|| License required for non-resident shell fishing. || Lifeguard on duty 9:00 am to 6:00 pm. || No Animals Allowed || No Alcohol and no fires permitted.

    --Barrier Beach Permit: (required for driving on any RI State Barrier Beach or access road). Permits are valid from July 1st through June 30th of the following year and must be renewed. Residents & Non-Residents [ based on where the vehicle is registered ] Residents - $100.00 per year Non-Residents - $200.00 per year

    --Operational Times: Camping Season: Memorial Day Weekend through Labor Day Weekend

    --Memorial Day weekend through Labor Day, there is a four night minimum reservation. The minimum stay will be reduced to one night for reservations that are purchased between June 1st and Labor Day for the current year.


    Newport would be a great venue - the people in Newport are real friendly to sailors and would love the spirit of the GIS Meetup.

    Why not try a test drive later on this year 2013 is a long ways away
    I think we need a local Goatee--or even just a Goat Herder--that knows the ground. Tom, is that you?
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    Tommyboy's post made me dig a little deeper into the Newport option. A few pages back I said this:
    Quote Originally Posted by davlafont View Post
    Check out Fort Adams:
    Fort Adams - Group Overnights

    They have some group overnight camping at $15/person. Campfires permitted within existing fire rings. Not sure if multiple nights are possible (or even desired). And not sure if there's a way to launch the boats.
    And now I've seen this:
    Sail Newport - Rhode Island's Public Sailing Center
    Sail Newport, Inc., founded in 1983, is a non-profit 501 (C) (3) organization. Sail Newport is home to New England's largest public sailing center and is considered Rhode Island's premier public sailing site.
    The Sail Newport Sailing Center is located at Fort Adams State Park. We are open to the public and have two hoists (for center-lift boats), dry-sail facilities, regatta dockage, storage and access to two ramps and beach launch. We are in this location at the good graces of the State of Rhode Island and hope you will help us keep our facility clean and safe. Enjoy the regatta! Keep tabs on all Sail Newport Regattas as they happen at our Regatta Facebook page:
    I think this idea is a contender. Maybe we do Connecticut shore in 2013 and Newport in 2014. And Lake George in 2015. It could be the US Northeast* Annual Goat Gathering Invitational Regatta and Clambake/RumFest(TM). Each year can be "hosted" by a different Goatee (hence the invitation). And BobWes will be required to bring the North American GIS Championship Burgee.


    *or North American, but to say North American Northeast is awkward...
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    That is all well and good, but you'll have to get John Goodman - or whoever wrests it from him - to bring the burgee...
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    We're going to need a bigger Goat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by callsign222 View Post
    We're going to need a bigger Goat.
    And here we were prodding MIK into doing a smaller Goat...

    Meanwhile, any epic journeys planned for IAZP this summer/fall? Yes, SRR was pretty epic, but not quite ManQuest epic.


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    Got two emails in the last week asking about longer goats. But I don't like the idea.
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    I'm seriously looking at Parker's Small Ohio Sharpie 19. I really would like a boat that I can be 4-5 people in, and 2 can sleep in with a nice tent, but without the cost or complexity of a Caledonia Yawl, or such other boat. I like simple. I like cost effective. I grew up sailing in Connecticut. The Sharpie fits.

    I might be in touch, Mik, with some brainstorming and you can tell me if I'm being stupid or not.

    And Dave, what about BroVenture!? That was pretty sweet. Regardless, stay tuned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by callsign222 View Post
    I'm seriously looking at Parker's Small Ohio Sharpie 19.
    I just Googled it. What a natural progression! Cat Ketch or Sloop? (My guess is sloop..)
    And Dave, what about BroVenture!? That was pretty sweet. Regardless, stay tuned.
    Sweet indeed. You've set the bar pretty high. Standing by for this year's awesomeness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by callsign222 View Post
    I'm seriously looking at Parker's Small Ohio Sharpie 19. I really would like a boat that I can be 4-5 people in, and 2 can sleep in with a nice tent, but without the cost or complexity of a Caledonia Yawl, or such other boat. I like simple. I like cost effective. I grew up sailing in Connecticut. The Sharpie fits.

    I might be in touch, Mik, with some brainstorming and you can tell me if I'm being stupid or not.

    And Dave, what about BroVenture!? That was pretty sweet. Regardless, stay tuned.
    That boat is not that much bigger than a GIS. It is only 1.1 m longer and a big share of that is decked aft in the boat.

    I have a suggestion if you want to be really cost effective. Improve on the boat you already have. From the pictures it really looks like it would be possible to sleep in a GIS with a little bit of additional work.

    I have been thinking about the following improvement for long trips: Measure out two plywood pieces that covers the area from the bow until the middle resting on the "benches". Make a light, removable wood frame that can support the plywood pieces in the empty area between. Make some "locks" to keep the plywood pieces in place.

    Make then a tent for your GIS.

    This improvement gives a place for stuffing all kind of equipment when you go for a longer adventure. By having some locks for the plywood, your equipment will not fall out of the boat if you roll over (no need for to tie your equipment). It also gives a plain area for sleeping (I think two would fit there sleeping). The important thing is to make it removable, so whenever you do not want extra weight, you leave it away.

    Advantages: No time nor money wasted on building another boat. The boat is still light and can be carried by two persons.

    (I do not have a GIS, and this is just my thoughts, it might be impractical in practice)

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    I love my Goat, but she's not great for sleeping on. I was planning on making sleeping bunks in her between the aft tank and the thwart and abandoned the idea-- too tippy if my weight is up high, and cutting into existed bulkheads to sleep on the floor would compromise Mik's light-but-tough construction.

    Your idea to sleep up forward is nice, but not practical. The narrow forefoot of the boat and it's lightness will make for a very rocking/rolling night as the stern lifts out of the water and the boat balanced on a much narrower beam. Anyone who has climbed up to the forward deck on the Goat to mess with something over the bow intimately knows the sensation when the bow sits down the and boat is looming over you from behind. Move slow.

    As far as the Sharpie, in boat talk, the extra 3.5' is almost exponential in size. The Small Ohio Sharpie is a big boat. It will carry over 1000 lbs without breaking a sweat, and sleeping arrangements would be commodious.

    Decks or no decks are buit according to builder-- lots of flexibility for the builder.

    See, no decks:



    I think this Sharpie would be perfectly suited for applying some of Storer-building philosophy. I just want to make a model first before I start throwing out ideas. Cat/Ketch, lugs, Dave. Need something to keep her in the wind when on the hook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by callsign222 View Post
    Cat/Ketch, lugs, Dave. Need something to keep her in the wind when on the hook.
    Huzzah! I was afraid the performance sailor in you would push for the upwind performance of a jibbed sloop. But the Cat/Ketch just OOOZEs character. Maybe that Coquina from last year is haunting your dreams (Gaffed, not Lug'd, but still...)? You've got PM.

    So... let's pick a Northeast messabout that can be the coming out party for "The Next Big Thing" (and to steer this fine thread back on course ).
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    I grew up in New Haven, so an appreciation for a well-proportioned sharpie is in my bones. (Although, to be honest, I prefer a flat transom to the classic fantail.) And Parker is one of the only designers for amateurs, other than MIK, who's lines don't just scream 'home-built'. Sharpies also allow the coastal cruiser to go into shallows where keelboats can't. Good choice, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davlafont View Post
    Meanwhile, any epic journeys planned for IAZP this summer/fall? Yes, SRR was pretty epic, but not quite ManQuest epic.
    Not sure if it counts as epic... Goat Island Skiff Amateur Style: BILTrek2012!

    More to come next month, hopefully.

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    I have my sched for September who wants to talk? Weekends are no good, except for one odd sunday.

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