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  1. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by koala View Post
    Hello Csaba

    In this part of the world Hempel is a good option (not too expensive) www.hempel.hu ;
    Iridia marine paint and varnish (normally 2 pot, moore expensive) and others.
    Thanks for ideas - I decided to use International - Perfection undercoat and paint

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    We'll see.
    I tried to contact HEMPEL but they do not have marine paints. The guy said it is because Hungary doesn't have lots of water. Hmm.
    I will keep you updated about how I advance.

    Cheers
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    Your experience with paint distributors sound like my problems here. hehe

    I also wanted to mention International (could'nt think of the name before).
    It's more common brand in Croatia than here.

    I think this is very good choise.

    Peter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mezix View Post
    Thanks for ideas - I decided to use International - Perfection undercoat and paint
    Cheers
    Csaba
    A perfect choice. Haven't used it myself but I have heard good things about that product, so glad you can get it!

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    Yes the perfection is a two pot so will give excellent durability.

    Make sure you get some of the "brushing thinners" if you are using rollers and brushes and do the light finishing strokes vertical on vertical surfaces.

    If you are spraying you need really good masks with carbon filters (new ones - they stop working as they get old) or an external air supply.

    I usually use their "Brightside" which is a nice single pot which goes on nicely with a special soft foam roller.

    MIK

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    Default epoxying cockpit

    Last night I coated the cockpit of my PD.
    I worked until late night because I did not calculate with the time inbetween the coats. So the work ended around mid-night.

    I 'poxed the rudder and some other parts that were waiting to to be coated for a while.

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    Probably because of late night job - I forget my brush on the side panel. See the result next morning:

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    Supposedly I and wasserTRABI will survive it - but it was a good lesson.

    Nevertheless I cleaned the yard afterwards

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    Cheers
    Csaba

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    Default painting, sail, rudder

    Dear boatbuilders,
    Last weekend I tried to speed up things because the summer will be gone so quickly - and I really wanna try sailing wasserTRABI this season.
    After sanding the whole exterior I applied the base-paint - I was not too happy with the results - I have to agree that two pot paint is not the easiest to work with.

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    To have some delight I assembled the rig and rudder.

    The sail is a second hand one - that we used in an exhibition for renewables as a banner - we also asked people to sign it - I had to modify the sail a bit so the text is a bit shortened - it used to say: clean air and renewable energy now (now it is: clean air ... energ..) - which is kind of funny - people might think I am completely crazy.

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    The rudder is partly from the sailing-shop. I am curious how it will perform.

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    At the end I finished the foredeck. I have some painting to do on the deck and it is ready.

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    Very much like the Uber-recycled sail - a recycled environmental sign! Both funny and environmentally sound ()for the second time).

    The paint will protect the hull well. Later you can sand it smooth and repaint - each time it will get better.

    Did you use the brushing thinner in the mxed paint.

    MIK

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    Thanks Michael,
    No, I didn't use thinner - maybe that was the problem. I will try with the top-paint.
    The color of the boat at the end will be blue.
    Cheers
    Csaba

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    Dear Boatbuilders,

    I am happy to report that wasserTRABI, my first PD Racer is ready.

    Launch will happen on the next nice and slightly windy day.

    Bests
    Csaba

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    Default Launch

    I am happy to report that I had the first launch of wasserTRABI the first Hungarian PD Racer. The wind was not too strong at the nearby lake yesterday - I was pretty nervous at the begining. I had to make efforts to keep the boat moving but after a few minutes I started to feel it. It was a spectacular feeling of success and satisfaction - Thank you Michael!!!

    People around were amazed, asked many questions and all noted the name of my website - painted on the side of the hull. I wouldn't be surprised if more builders from Hungary introduced soon.

    The first video shows the moments right after launch.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARDaWqlZFLA"]YouTube - Launch of the first Hungarian PD Racer 1 - vĂ#zretĂ©tel PD Racer[/ame]

    The secound was made half an hour later when I managed to manouver better.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oF2aeVq3CnI"]YouTube - Launch of the first Hungarian PD Racer 2 - vĂ#zretĂ©tel PD Racer[/ame]

    Thank you again for the great boat-plan and all the comments boatbuilders made to help building process.

    More videos will come later.

    Bests
    Csaba

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    VERY NICE Csaba

    Gongratulations

    It sure is very rewarding to finaly sit in a boat you've made.

    Good work,
    Peter

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    Fantastic!

    It is just like a Trabi but without the smoke

    MIK

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    Hey, I have watched the videos now ... looks great. Have you sailed much before Csaba?

    Looks like you have at some time.

    A couple of little adjustments.

    Always put the rudder right down if you can ... it prevents the mainsheet from catching on the rudderhead.

    Also shorten the traveller so it is lower and closer to the top of the transom.

    Do you see the gap between the bottom of the sail and the mast? Use the downhaul rope around the front of the mast one time to keep that gap closed. The gap flattens the sail a lot.

    But you should be please .. the boat goes really well!

    MIK

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    Go to about the 1:30 mark of clip 2 (the one linked to above). You'll see him bang on the rudder ... then lean over to apologise to it

    Richard
    okay, I might be misinterpretting what's happening

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