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  1. #106
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    Just thinking it through a bit more. this is highly consistent with the BETH and Goat Island Skiff approach. The Goat was to make a Bolger style box boat look nice and push the limits of flat bottomed performance.

    I am also thinking the bow fin might resolve a couple of things for the rowboat too.

    The canoe fits that set of criteria quite well too.

    So happy about the weight!

    MIK

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    I know this is a garnish... but I wonder if - after some testing - the plans for QuikCanoe might not include various fin profiles. Let's say three - optimized for: long straight runs (largish fins); whitewater/slalom (smallish); general purpose (mediumish).
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    My congratulations to Rick and MIK!

    When I first read about the idea, I just couldn’t grasp the concept and thought that this would end up in one ugly boat that wouldn’t paddle well. I should have had more confidence in MIK’s vision!

    Rick’s boat has turned out very nicely indeed for the effort and materials invested. Unbelievable that this was achieved in just 5 hours and 10 minutes!

    This canoe must have about the highest return on investment imaginable for a boat. Any additional time spent on this canoe might enhance the looks but will not improve function. Superb effort!

    Best regards,

    Joost

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    Have you guys read "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance"?

    If you haven't you should.

    If you have, then you will understand the similarity of purpose,

    "Zen, and the Art of the Simplfied Canoe"

    Well done Rick and MIK. Great to see her being enjoyed by the youngsters after less than 6 hours build time.

    Brian

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    Default five-hour canoe

    Howdy,
    Have you decided about the name? Why don't you call it the five-hour canoe?
    You could say: the first canoe that beat the six-hour canoe is the five-hour canoe.

    Attachment 125876

    I am pretty sure that Hungarian boat-builders would be happy to build and use the five-hour canoe.

    Cheers
    Csaba

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    Default I want one!

    MIK,

    Where do we order the plans?

    How much $$$ and how soon will they be available?

    Stephen

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    Quote Originally Posted by keyhavenpotter View Post
    Have you guys read "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance"?

    If you haven't you should.

    If you have, then you will understand the similarity of purpose,

    "Zen, and the Art of the Simplfied Canoe"

    Well done Rick and MIK. Great to see her being enjoyed by the youngsters after less than 6 hours build time.

    Brian
    Have indeed read it.

    There is a slightly surreal quality to the kids being out paddling a canoe in the middle of a Canadian Winter!

    If there is another patch of good weather Rick will try to get it out on some wider water to see what it does.

    MIK

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    Howdy Stephen,

    I am currently about half way through the plans and very focussed on getting them out. I am thinkiing something with such a potential wide appeal should not be too expensive and will be priced down near the PDRacer plans.

    MIK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mezix View Post
    Howdy,
    Have you decided about the name? Why don't you call it the five-hour canoe?
    You could say: the first canoe that beat the six-hour canoe is the five-hour canoe.

    I am pretty sure that Hungarian boat-builders would be happy to build and use the five-hour canoe.

    Cheers
    Csaba
    Actually to get to the same stage as the six hour canoe - and I have not looked at the book for a while - I think we don't need to include the painting time.

    Has anyone got a copy to check?

    This boat has a broader range of uses too including a much larger carrying capacity.

    Once I get the plans pinned down I will be drawing up what Paul (the test builder) would call a backpackers canoe - an under 16ft solo boat that is a fair bit narrower.

    This will give us the chance to trade of stability (now we know it is rather large) for speed and see just how well a squarish canoe can go in a straight line retaining better stability than a similarly beamed conventional canoe.

    Best wishes
    MIK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mezix View Post
    Howdy,
    Have you decided about the name? Why don't you call it the five-hour canoe?
    You could say: the first canoe that beat the six-hour canoe is the five-hour canoe.

    Attachment 125876

    I am pretty sure that Hungarian boat-builders would be happy to build and use the five-hour canoe.

    Cheers
    Csaba
    Well, if we are not including paint, we can call it the 4 hour and 25 minute canoe, but 5 hours is easier to say...

    Rick.

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    Sorry to say this, but you missed on the simple and slipped right into the elegant.


    Pretty boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boatmik View Post
    There is a slightly surreal quality to the kids being out paddling a canoe in the middle of a Canadian Winter!


    MIK
    It was only -1c (30f) when they were out, and had warmed up to 4c earlier that day. Fairly mild for this time of year, and my girls love being out on the water. It had been a couple of months since they had a chance to play on it (without ice skates). I had to call them in for dinner to get them out of the canoe, and by then it was already dark!
    Now they are mad at me because I touched up a couple of spots and the paint was too wet for them to go out again today. Kids. Sheesh.

    Rick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkirtley View Post
    Sorry to say this, but you missed on the simple and slipped right into the elegant.
    Pretty boat.
    Please note that elegance can imply simplicity. See #3, below: I think it's an apt description of what this design seems to be turning out to be.

    el·egant (elə gənt)
    adjective

    1. characterized by dignified richness and grace, as of design, dress, style, etc.; luxurious or opulent in a restrained, tasteful manner
    2. characterized by a sense of propriety or refinement; impressively fastidious in manners and tastes
    3. marked by concision, incisiveness, and ingenuity; cleverly apt and simple an elegant solution to a complex problem
    4. Informal excellent; fine; first-rate
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    More pictures for everyone to peek at. From the launch day.
    I had asked MIK a question about boat etiquette; Why is it that every boat gets named, yet canoes rarely have a name. I was wondering if this craft deserved to be christened, or if canoes are merely a product of mass production, and common items rarely get named. (MIK suggested that they are like dishwashers, maybe I should name it Maytag) What are everyones thoughts?

    Rick.

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    Hand made.
    Prototype for a new design.

    Sounds deserving of a name to me.

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