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  1. #16
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    1,900 miles later and I'm back to central Michigan after a great extended weekend at SailOK. The weather was cold, wet and windy - bad enough that no one sailed on Friday or Saturday. Thursday was nice, warm and clear so we sailed a lot that day. Sunday was better than the previous two days but not by much. Despite the weather, it was good to catch up with old friends and to meet new ones. Lots of boats, great folks, plenty of good food and wonderful presentations by Dave Nichols, Dave Gentry, Howard Rice, Richard Wood and Mik.

    Here's Mik during his Sunday morning (Nice sunny morning, right? Check out Mik's parka...) presentation on lug rigs:
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    Karen Ann, a Storer GIS
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    Default Sail OK - Four Days of Fun and Excitement

    With limited sailing I imagine there wasn't much opportunity for boom experimentation, huh?

    I look forward to hearing more about the weekend.


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    Quote Originally Posted by davlafont View Post
    I look forward to hearing more about the weekend.
    ... And to have MIK here again. He has not been active for a very long time. Hopefully he has also had a very nice time sailing somewhere.

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    No, there wasn't much opportunity to change out booms to see how each affects sail control and trim. Maybe next time.

    Mik's presentation about lug sails was very entertaining and informative. The best part of it, though, was sitting away from Karen Ann and seeing the effects of each sail control (halyard, down-haul, out-haul and main-sheet) on the sail. Being outside the boat provides an entirely different perspective than sitting in the boat provides and gives you a better chance to see each control's effect (sailing side-by-side, you could see things happening in the other boat, but there is the distraction of minding your own boat!). Seeing how the top of the sail flattens when the down-haul is cranked on was impressive.

    The other presentations were excellent, too. As was the food; and the camaraderie. I think everyone came away with at least one door prize or award. Karen Ann won for something like "Best Bright Yellow Goat Island Skiff on the Beach"... or some such. At any rate, that something was a set of plans for Dave Gentry's Chuckanut 15 SOF kayak.

    A good time was had by all!
    Building Gardens of Fenwick, a Welsford Parthfinder
    Gardens of Fenwick
    Karen Ann, a Storer GIS
    Goat Island Skiff - Sacramento

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobWes View Post
    Karen Ann won for something like "Best Bright Yellow Goat Island Skiff on the Beach"... or some such.
    Against stiff competition, no doubt. Hey... a W is a W, so they say
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  7. #21
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    Howdy...

    No internet in Oklahoma but I am back.

    It was so cold. I'm still feeling a bit woozie. I'm at Duckworks.

    Here are the boat pics. Gallery here - Sail Oklahoma 2012 - some of the boats - a set on Flickr

    John Owens who does kits for the Texas Duck, the Quick Canoes and the Eureka. This is what we turned up with.



    Dave Gentry's beautiful skin on frame outrigger.



    What happens to a boat designed for one when it carries two. Dave asked me along but I was down to the last of my dry clothes.



    Another multi - they were something of a force.



    Most of the other boats were out sailing. But Dave Gentry had this up his sleeve. A version of a Howard Chapelle boat built by Paul Helbert.



    Texas Duck



    And the scene to the left. The scene to the right was similar.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BobWes View Post
    No, there wasn't much opportunity to change out booms to see how each affects sail control and trim. Maybe next time.

    Mik's presentation about lug sails was very entertaining and informative. The best part of it, though, was sitting away from Karen Ann and seeing the effects of each sail control (halyard, down-haul, out-haul and main-sheet) on the sail. Being outside the boat provides an entirely different perspective than sitting in the boat provides and gives you a better chance to see each control's effect (sailing side-by-side, you could see things happening in the other boat, but there is the distraction of minding your own boat!). Seeing how the top of the sail flattens when the down-haul is cranked on was impressive.

    The other presentations were excellent, too. As was the food; and the camaraderie. I think everyone came away with at least one door prize or award. Karen Ann won for something like "Best Bright Yellow Goat Island Skiff on the Beach"... or some such. At any rate, that something was a set of plans for Dave Gentry's Chuckanut 15 SOF kayak.

    A good time was had by all!
    My talk involved gradually removing clothing. Unaccompanied by music.

    I mostly talked about rigs on all boats being bound by the same principles. That in the last hundred years the bermudan rig has been developed by years of racing to have the best control over
    twist
    sail draft through spar bend

    Then after building that picture I then went on to how we apply the same thinking using downhauls, then vangs and bleeters.

    Guest stars were BobWes about booms and Chuck Pierce who uses a vang and downhaul on his Michalak boat.



    All the layers on the outside came off as the morning warmed.

    MIK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boatmik View Post
    ...It was so cold. I'm still feeling a bit woozie....
    Remind me not to invite you to sail Long Island Sound in winter.

    (Yes, people do it, racing 9 foot dinghies every Saturday all winter long.)

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    F Frostbiting - yes - Know that one. Would be fun.

    If I had been a bit better prepared it would have been OK. But I got cold at the start and never really recovered.

    MIK

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    Default John Owens canoe...

    Hi Mik,
    I love the look of John Owen's Eureka. that is what I am wanting to build! I have the plans but SWMBo has a list I have to complete before I can start on it...
    Looking at the pictures I have been able to find on SO12, of htis set up, i can't seem to see any dagger board. and it doesn't appear to have the usual drop-in sail setup. is this a modification that you suggest when the eureka has the outriggers?
    How did it perform?

    Thanks
    Greg.

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