Thread: Sailing canoe cruise across the Baltic Sea to the Bornholm Island - a crazy idea.

Hi Robert,

I've thought about doing similar things. If it is unprotected water I would go with the attitude that I might have to abandon the boat if it goes bad - assuming I can summon up another one to rescue me.

MIK

Originally Posted by Boatmik

I've thought about doing similar things. If it is unprotected water I would go with the attitude that I might have to abandon the boat if it goes bad - assuming I can summon up another one to rescue me.

Of course - An assist from larger vessel would be very useful.

Hey, looks like a great trip under the right conditions!

What is it about what I call distance sailing that is so attractive?

Originally Posted by BobWes

Hey, looks like a great trip under the right conditions!

Yes - I think so!

What is it about what I call distance sailing that is so attractive?

I think it's a like as a experience of life itself in its fullness - it takes time and concentration - especially night at sea (between stars and waters) - without unnecessary thoughts - the same experience of life as it is.

It turns a sail into an adventure.

Part of the secret is the inappropriateness of the boat. They guys that sail a Hobie a 40 mile day leg of the Texas200 have a three hours sail.

The Ducks that do it with a maximum speed of 4 knots have an adventure. There is little real risk to life - one of the real reasons for the event - the water is warm and the shore is not too far away most of the time (or the bottom too deep to stand up outside the barge channels)

Also the greatest thing about sailing somewhere new is the feeling of sailing into a new port. Nothing like it. You become ... a ... a .... seafarer!

Best wishes
MIK

Originally Posted by Boatmik

It turns a sail into an adventure.

Part of the secret is the inappropriateness of the boat. They guys that sail a Hobie a 40 mile day leg of the Texas200 have a three hours sail.

The Ducks that do it with a maximum speed of 4 knots have an adventure. There is little real risk to life - one of the real reasons for the event - the water is warm and the shore is not too far away most of the time (or the bottom too deep to stand up outside the barge channels)

Also the greatest thing about sailing somewhere new is the feeling of sailing into a new port. Nothing like it. You become ... a ... a .... seafarer!

Ha ha!

I do not care to be a seafarer. I want to experience being an atom at sea.

Hoping achieve averaging 2.5 knots of speed I'm expected to arrive at Dueodde beach* after 24 hours at sea.

I can see also problem in returning to the Poland ... Probably I need to sail again (another day and night) from Bornholm across the Baltic Sea to the Mrzeżyno beach ... Another day and night at sea for an experience of life itself in its fullness.

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*) The sand of this beach is so tiny that it was used for making "sand clocks" (hourglass).

That would be quite the sail! Holy cow, props.

So, with a support boat? Or solo? I'm not very clear.

What about adding an ama to the Beth, so you can get into the cockpit and relax a little bit but still chug along?

Originally Posted by callsign222

That would be quite the sail! Holy cow, props.

So, with a support boat? Or solo? I'm not very clear.

I prefer totally solo, but I'm not a quite stupid

Friend who inspired me can support me with his boat on summer 2012.

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About speed and inappropriate/appropriate boats:
On July 2008 at proa Pjoa with my friend Janusz Ostrowski we averaging 7 knots on leg which half of distance from Mrzeżyno to Dueodde beach, but wind was Force 5 (4 - 6 ... really too strong for sailing canoe Beth) and it was hard a bit...


photo courtesy Anna Becher

Originally Posted by callsign222

What about adding an ama to the Beth, so you can get into the cockpit and relax a little bit but still chug along?

I prefer Beth without ama - Beth has a flat bottom and she can pounding if no heeling.

Outrigger canoes and proas have "V" or "U" hull's shapes usually.

The bottom's of amas are set higher than the bottom of the canoe, so you can get your heel on. It won't necessarily keep it flat. Gary Dierking's popular and long-distance-race-successful Wa'apa is a flat bottom sailing canoe.

http://www.duckworksbbs.com/plans/di...aapa/index.htm

Originally Posted by callsign222

The bottom's of amas are set higher than the bottom of the canoe, so you can get your heel on. It won't necessarily keep it flat. Gary Dierking's popular and long-distance-race-successful Wa'apa is a flat bottom sailing canoe.

Just right, but Beth's hull is a wider flat bottomed still (0.83 m)

Good Night!

Ah,,, interesting... Distance turns a sail into an adventure. I like that, although I suspect that an appropriate boat wouldn't diminish the adventure.

The Tip of the Mitt adventure is drawing me in... yes, cold water and iffy conditions (could be too much or not enough wind) - but sailing/rowing my boat 130+ miles to meet up with like minded gents; camping on the beach... Yes, it is drawing me in...

A distance adventure.

Originally Posted by BobWes

Ah,,, interesting... Distance turns a sail into an adventure. I like that, although I suspect that an appropriate boat wouldn't diminish the adventure.

The Tip of the Mitt adventure is drawing me in... yes, cold water and iffy conditions (could be too much or not enough wind) - but sailing/rowing my boat 130+ miles to meet up with like minded gents; camping on the beach... Yes, it is drawing me in...

A distance adventure.

The adequacy of the boat reduces level of risk, and increases the possibility of success.
If I have appriopriate boat I'm more flex in relation to weather.
With little sailing canoe I'm limited by weather - I need few days of model high pressure weather which does not necessarily come, and I will be "imprisoned" at the starting point or... I will start in inappropriate weather conditions and... dying...

Adventure number of miles traveled is measured
Bornholm - there and back, is a pretty good adventure.

Sadly - There are not chains of islands and archipelagos for adventures like this:
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