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Thread: Seacoast NH Eureka
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23rd October 2010, 02:54 PM #31New Member
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After seeing your project, I am not sure if I know! I have purchased the plans for the GIS and have found a source for most of the materials, but I might have to change directions and build Storer's Eureka! On top of being a slightly simpler project to begin with, I think I have a slightly better chance of getting my wife in a canoe before a sailboat. It would also fit a little better into my budget.
Well, shoot... what should I do?!? The only downside I see to going to an Eureka is that I don't have room to have two boats when i finally build a sailboat!
Mik (if you read this post)... how do you feel about someone selling one of your boats to build another one?
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23rd October 2010, 03:15 PM #32Intermediate Member
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To give you a taste of my experience so far, I think I'm around hour 30-35 and expect to be done in less than 60 hours of work. Part of that will be caused by my ancestors from Deutschland and their anal-retentiveness. I'm estimating $500-$550 US. Not bad for a canoe that I'm hoping will weigh around 40 lbs. Based on my experience with the Eureka and the patience required, I know I would have trouble building a GIS as a first build only because of all of the different facets in the build. The canoe is a simple hull, gunwales and final furnishings. Building a mast, centerboard, rudder, etc on top of all the rest? I know I would run out of patience. Sorry Mik. For a first build, the Eureka has been perfect, so far. I watched Callsign build his GIS and now I'm watching him build a QuickCanoe. Wow, what a difference! Good luck with your GIS. If you need any amateur advice about the Eureka let me know. If you want real advice, ask pretty much anyone else on this forum.
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23rd October 2010, 04:02 PM #33
Less than 60 hours for the total build? Really? Geez... I may need to think about building a Eureka canoe to serve as my car-top watercraft for my camper-trailer adventures. I'll have a place to build a boat late next spring so I am contemplating designs. The QC is in consideration but I really like the looks of the Eureka.
Eventually I would like to build a sailing version of a Wee Rob or a MacGregor canoe but that project will have to wait.
<sigh> Too many designs out there to choose from.Building Gardens of Fenwick, a Welsford Parthfinder
Gardens of Fenwick
Karen Ann, a Storer GIS
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24th October 2010, 11:19 AM #34
All perceptions are really important to me Pete. Your hours are pretty much in line with what I have found in a building school scenario or maybe a bit better.
The Goat is pretty simple for such a big, potentially multi function boat. But as you say, the sailing gear adds quite a bit of effort.
Thanks for the feedback!
MIK
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28th October 2010, 01:21 PM #35Intermediate Member
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Hey, the bulkheads fit now!
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28th October 2010, 09:50 PM #36
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28th October 2010, 11:14 PM #37Intermediate Member
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Thanks, I was dreading this step. I'm not sure if the 4mm ply was the culprit but the two high points on the bulkhead that contact the bilge panel between the chines were way too high. I ended up scribing the bilge panel shape onto a piece of scrap ply, transferred the shape to the bulkhead and cut off all the excess. That worked really well.
We've had some nice days here but they won't last. I'm going to do the same thing bitingmidge did and throw this thing in the water with no decks. I'm dying to give her a paddle before it's too late. With any luck that might happen in the next 5 days. I also want the check out the stability so I can figure out where I want my seats.
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30th October 2010, 02:36 AM #38
WOW!
I like it!
Consider you to use MIK's drop-in sail rig for your Eureka?
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30th October 2010, 06:11 AM #39Intermediate Member
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That thought definitely crossed my mind. That may be one of my winter projects.
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30th October 2010, 06:23 AM #40Intermediate Member
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Out of curiosity I weighed my canoe with bulkheads and hatches installed, no gunwales, spreaders, decks, or seats (just the basic hull). Needless to say, I was quite happy. She weighed only 27 lbs or for those of you operating with a system that makes sense, 12.2 Kg.
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30th October 2010, 09:41 AM #41
We would probably round down to 12kg!
As a boat designer I would probably strongly round it down - talking about built weights! Or round up with unbuilt boats
MIK
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31st October 2010, 02:00 AM #42Intermediate Member
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Since it was a bathroom scale lets call it 12kg (+0, -2 kg). So lets just call it 10kg. 10 lbs its is! I like it!
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31st October 2010, 09:39 AM #43
Actually I do try to be fairly accurate - because that is the way of learning what is really happening. But amazing how a few plus and minus signs in your note above makes it all look legitimate!
Also good to measure the boat twice. Once just the boat and once with you and the boat and then deduct your own weight and see what happens.
MIK
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2nd November 2010, 10:40 AM #44Intermediate Member
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Well she's seen the water. A 6 degree C 20 knot day with some whitecaps, no buoyancy tanks, a temporary center spreader, a lot of rocks, and a good friend. I was amazed at how well she cut through the waves. I was used to a wide flat bottom canoe so the initial stability difference took a little getting used to but it is a fun canoe. I definitely don't regret glassing the bottom as the pictures will show. It's going to get scratched up eventually. I might as well get it over with!
I was out with Callsign who just finished his quick canoe. It was fun to compare the difference. The Eureka is more like a sports car and the QC seemed more like an RV. That is a roomy canoe! I might need one.
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2nd November 2010, 01:35 PM #45Prototypes-R-Us
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