Thread: Some CNC router projects.

I'm a bit sad to see the US-style fetish for military CNC popping up in Australia

It dominates the Vectric forum to the point that I rarely go there any more, now I guess we'll have to put up with it here as well.

Oh well. I suppose I lived through Harley signs and Mayan plaques, I'll probably survive this bout of gung-ho-ism as well.

Well, my next CNC project is to convert this machine over to Mach3.

Selective Soldering Machine Jig Making Process


Cheers,

Peter.

Was reading your post last night Peter. Looks very interesting and look forward to reading about the conversion.

SHAME SHAME SHAME

Over the past few years i have contributed to this forum, and in return received nothing but positive support from many of its members, such as Rod, Greg, Steve, Bob, Mike, Chris, Peter, Daniel, and Baz.

Now we get this sort of snide criticism from someone (who probably correctly names himself "Cro-magnon") .

It is a well-worn but true adage that "those who can do - those who can't criticise", and in my professional life as a Clinical Psychologist, I have seen and treated many such people. Unfortunately, the world is full of such people - and usually styems from envy.

As for the "fetish" of "militaristic CNC", first I suggest that before using technical terms like "fetish", Mr Dunn goes to the trouble of actually looking up the definition, and understanding what the word means - and that second, he might actually gain from acquiring some insight into those who have put their lives on the line in support of this great country, and its people - such as himself - and who have sometimes paid the ultimate price for such sacrifice.

It appears that theer will always be those who blithely assume that they need to do nothing to support their own country and their own freedom, and who are more than willing to have others die, or become permanently crippled in their name, but who are unwilling to support those efforts in any way - even in such a small way as simply refraining from snide derogatory comments.

Unfortunately, it seems that there are still some people about who still have some of the attitudes and contempt for those who put their lives on the line for them, whether it is in Vietnam, Timor, or now Afghanistan.

Personally, I remain extremely proud of having served my country in a time of need, and while I personally disagree with war and its costs and consequences, realise that in this world it simply is not good enough to sit on the side-lines getting fat while others do the hard yards for you.

I made some "memento mori" for past service friends of mine, and put them up as simple examples of what CNC can be used for.

Pity that small minds can only criticise.

Let us see what you can do My Dunn - don't just sit back in the shadows and snipe.

It is no wonder that the contributiuons to this forum have declined markedly in the past couple of years, if all we are going to get is ennui and jaundiced criticism.

Anyway - many thanks to the many people who have been so supportive and helpful over the years, and while I will still communicate with many of you in the future, it will be by personal PM, as I see no use continuing to use this forum if it is only going to provide small people with the oportunity to sneer at those who make the effort.


Regards
Noel

Originally Posted by phomann

Well, my next CNC project is to convert this machine over to Mach3.

Selective Soldering Machine Jig Making Process


Cheers,

Peter.

Very cool Pete.

Brad.

Originally Posted by PsychoPig7

SHAME SHAME SHAME

Over the past few years i have contributed to this forum, and in return received nothing but positive support from many of its members, such as Rod, Greg, Steve, Bob, Mike, Chris, Peter, Daniel, and Baz.

Now we get this sort of snide criticism from someone (who probably correctly names himself "Cro-magnon") .

It is a well-worn but true adage that "those who can do - those who can't criticise", and in my professional life as a Clinical Psychologist, I have seen and treated many such people. Unfortunately, the world is full of such people - and usually styems from envy.

As for the "fetish" of "militaristic CNC", first I suggest that before using technical terms like "fetish", Mr Dunn goes to the trouble of actually looking up the definition, and understanding what the word means - and that second, he might actually gain from acquiring some insight into those who have put their lives on the line in support of this great country, and its people - such as himself - and who have sometimes paid the ultimate price for such sacrifice.

It appears that theer will always be those who blithely assume that they need to do nothing to support their own country and their own freedom, and who are more than willing to have others die, or become permanently crippled in their name, but who are unwilling to support those efforts in any way - even in such a small way as simply refraining from snide derogatory comments.

Unfortunately, it seems that there are still some people about who still have some of the attitudes and contempt for those who put their lives on the line for them, whether it is in Vietnam, Timor, or now Afghanistan.

Personally, I remain extremely proud of having served my country in a time of need, and while I personally disagree with war and its costs and consequences, realise that in this world it simply is not good enough to sit on the side-lines getting fat while others do the hard yards for you.

I made some "memento mori" for past service friends of mine, and put them up as simple examples of what CNC can be used for.

Pity that small minds can only criticise.

Let us see what you can do My Dunn - don't just sit back in the shadows and snipe.

It is no wonder that the contributiuons to this forum have declined markedly in the past couple of years, if all we are going to get is ennui and jaundiced criticism.

Anyway - many thanks to the many people who have been so supportive and helpful over the years, and while I will still communicate with many of you in the future, it will be by personal PM, as I see no use continuing to use this forum if it is only going to provide small people with the oportunity to sneer at those who make the effort.


Regards
Noel

Nice response Noel

Please reconsider your intention to leave. We really need people like you who have in depth knowledge of our hobby.

Bob Willson

Free speech is good, and although i don't think he meant it to be as harsh as we have taken it, it is definitely not in good taste. The vectric site does have alot of military related projects as well as alot of Harley related projects too, but you also have to look at it, alot are done by beginners starting out and alot of the free files floating around american sites are harley and military based hence the overload of the projects.

Either way he does have to remember these are CNC forums!!! Whatever is posted i enjoy because i am here to look at cnc projects whatever they are. So come on guys, lets get this thread back on track, forget the banter and get back to the good stuff.

Daniel

Noel,
I pointed out to Mr Dunn yesterday the direspect in his comment and thus gave him the opportunity to remove his post. This was ignored so I removed my post last night knowing that there would be an appropriate response such as yours coming.

I'm sure the majority of us are proud of our services - I am. Ignore the post as a troll and keep contributing - we haven't finished milking you yet.

It blows me away when I see the different professions that tinker in the shed. I think you wasted your professional career and should have been in a trade.

Originally Posted by rodm

Noel,
I pointed out to Mr Dunn yesterday the direspect in his comment and thus gave him the opportunity to remove his post. This was ignored so I removed my post last night knowing that there would be an appropriate response such as yours coming..

Rod

You are a gentleman.

Bob Willson

Hi Bob,
Can you tell SWMBO (but rarely is) that.

When I was a boy, the returned servicemen of WWI and WWII were quite reticent about their experiences. In fact, I remember an Uncle saying that those who felt the need to brag were usually nothing but con-men or blanket stackers.

In fairness, the post on which I commented wasn't bragging and I should probably have ignored it. It triggered my response because I don't like the militaristic glorification taking place within woodworking and CNC forums, usually accompanied by users with names like "Sarge", "Chief" and "The Colonel".

PsychoPig, you're rather thin-skinned for a psychologist. I didn't criticise you personally, I expressed a dislike for the subject of some of your work. Get over it. As for my evolutionary status, it is a play on the common woodworking term of "Neanderthal", as I describe my evolution from hand tools to automation. By the way, I do have a regimental number, but it never saw any serious use.

BobWillson, you were so angry that you not only posted twice, you got the post wrong! Here is the link I think you meant to provide, but I can't see any deep offence in the responses. Your skin may also be a little thin.

https://www.woodworkforums.com/f43/bu...ianisms-91328/

Rod, to your last post, I wasn't trolling, I posted a deeply held point of view. I'm concerned at the extent to which "security" and "terrorism" have taken over our lives, and I'm offended by the wave of jingoism that accompanies the pointless wars of the last two decades that have cost the lives of too many Australians, destroyed too many countries, and killed too many innocent civilians. I won't glorify this threat to our Australian way of life. It is a long way from CNC, I know, but we each have our own standards of offence.

I have my own CNC machine, I built it from a kit. I built my own controller, wrote my own code to drive it, and use it to build toys for my children. My hope is that they can grow up to build their own wooden toys, in a world that doesn't celebrate "legal" terrorism.

Originally Posted by Ron Dunn

BobWillson, you were so angry that you not only posted twice, you got the post wrong! Here is the link I think you meant to provide, but I can't see any deep offence in the responses. Your skin may also be a little thin.

https://www.woodworkforums.com/f43/bu...ianisms-91328/

Hello Ron
You are correct, I was very angry that Noel should have felt such deep offense from your remarks. I have however calmed down a bit now due in no small part to Rods example. Which I shall now follow even further by deleting my second message which is atypical of my normal demeanour. You may even find it in yourself to do the same to your post Ron.

I didn't get the link wrong, the link I gave was to the thread in which Papa voiced his annoyance, and it included a link to the thread that gave the offense.

I seldom get angry for myself and it is very difficult to insult me. I do however get angry very quickly on behalf of others.

Bob Willson

Methinks it is time for a deep breath, and a glass of red. Feel the serenity chaps.

In a completely unrelated topic, I would like to say hello to all of you , I have been a regular reader of this forum for about a year now and have finally taken the plunge and started building my first CNC router, thanks mainly to the inspiration gathered from the projects of all types that are posted here here, the work and thought that goes into each of these projects is unbeliveable.

Although I'm only a new member I'm already a big fan of people here, maybe one day soon I might have a picture worth posting ... if all goes according to plan with my router
thanks,

Pete