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    Hello Everyone
    finally getting my 6040 to work
    the only issue i have now is getting more revs out of my spindle
    with the help of a sparky friend we programed it as per the manual
    but going on the counter on my VSD all i can get out of it is 2000rpm
    am sure its all in the settings but were
    the question is were have i gone wrong and in simple terms how do i fix the problem


    thankyou in advance for any feed back
    Cheers Tony

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    What spindle and what VFD do you have?
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    If you are running a VFD and 3phase spindle motor, there is a explanation of the relationship between VFD output frequency and RPM in post 3 here, which I prepared for SAISAY 10 days ago. For this setup, for a theoretical 2000RPM max speed, you would be limiting VFD output frequency to around 33HZ, way too low. Otherwise there is an issue with the arithmetic being used, or you are using some other type of drive/controller.
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    sorry everyone
    a bit more info on my part would be better
    the spindle is a 0.8kw water cooled and the VFD mod# is HY1d523D
    220-1.5kw

    i believe we have the frequancy set at 400hz
    hope this helps a bit more

    cheers Tony

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    Ok
    You probably mean the HY01D523B

    In which case you need to follow the settings that have previously been published in the Huanyang newbie thread.
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    It will be a setting issue. If your confused about the settings from the other thread, please post a table with your settings so we can help you pin point the problem. post only what you have changed as there are over 150 values in total.

    WARNING
    The air cooled units which your unit is will required 120Hz to be set for one of the min values instead of 100Hz, otherwise "you will burn out the VFD".

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    Quote Originally Posted by malb View Post
    If you are running a VFD and 3phase spindle motor, there is a explanation of the relationship between VFD output frequency and RPM in post 3 here, which I prepared for SAISAY 10 days ago.
    And I am still working hard at comprehending it
    Every day is better than yesterday

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    Default bingo

    i knew i wrote my settings down , but could not find the instrution book for my VDF
    last night at 2am i woke up and knew where i put it , sticky taped to the top of the VDF's upside down draw ???good spot for it

    so since we bought the same machine , and i clicked on your link when you bought your VDF off ebay 1 week later than you
    so here go's , my settings , from a factory start up ??? i dont know if you have changed any numbers not listed
    PD001 1 > source of run , 0=operator , 1= external , 2 comm port
    PD005 400 >max operating frequency 50-400
    PD004 400 >base frequency 0.01-400
    PD003 400 >main frequency 0-400 ,
    PD006 2.5 >intermediate frequency 2.50-3.0

    PD008 220 >max voltage 220-388
    PD009 15V >intermediate voltage
    PD010 8V >min. voltage 0.1-50
    PD011 50HZ > frequency lower limit 0-400

    PD142 7 >RATED MOTOR CURRENT !!!!!!this will be differnt if you have a 0.8kw!!!!!!!!!!!

    PD143 4 >motor pole number
    PD144 3000 > rated motor revolution 24000

    I reread the huanyang page about 4 x writing this down in my manual , set the settings and it worked , 1 havent touched them since , full 24,000RPM but i only go to a max 18,000 rpm ?? i dont know why im just like that , why thrash it ???

    cheers ken

    just read your post , my 6545 came with a 1.5kw spindle , mines 80mm dia , not too shore on the 0.8kw i think there 65mm - 70mm???
    how come a 10mm peg dont fit in a 10mm hole

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    i was going to go through the list on my machine and tell you all my settings , but i forgot how , so had to read the instructions , and found page 19 of the book that lists al the factory settings as well as what each one is , ill edit the post above with the names of the functions

    wait , ill go through my VDF , and right down what settings i have , some up there look strange ie PD001 ,PD144

    WAIT , i ran out of time , will go through my VDF tonight
    how come a 10mm peg dont fit in a 10mm hole

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    thanks everyone for the feed back
    will see how i go over weekend
    from reading the info forwarded the is no differance in the settings from a 0.8kw to a 1.5kw spindle
    thanks again
    cheers Tony

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    Only PD142 which should be set as per the motor size, which should be 6.5 amps
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    Hi Chris

    Are you sure that you haven't made an error somewhere?

    ie CD000=200?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Willson View Post
    Hi Chris

    Are you sure that you haven't made an error somewhere?

    ie CD000=200?
    Will check in the morning Bob. It's been 3 years since I recorded my settings, so it could be a typo, or I could have subsequently changed it. I'll check them all while I'm at it.
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    Have just been out to the shed, and have been totally confused. Nothing on the vfd agrees with my workbook, the registers all begin with PD and NOT CD, and none of the readings bear any resemblance. I now remember that the original vfd had issues, Chai refunded the price and I bought a new one somewhere.

    I have deleted my earlir post, as it could be dangerous for someone if they used the settings. As soon as I can, I will make a new workbook to suit my current unit, and will record my settings again. I will post this when complete.

    Sorry for any confusion that I have sowed.
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