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10th April 2017, 08:25 PM #1GOLD MEMBER
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Is XYZ carve suitable for detailed wooden reliefs?
Hi guys,
I am in the very early stages. I'm just trying to determine a budget goal.
The idea is to make detailed reliefs in wood panels. (I'm assuming hardwood for best results.)
I'd use it for other jobs but that would be the main goal.
The results would need to be fine detail but I wouldn't care if it took 12 hours to run, since it is only a hobby.
Back in the day I was an electronic technician. Although I have been only dealing with software for donkeys years now. I have zero experience with CNC but the principles of how the hardware works seem pretty basic to me. I'd just need to learn all the software but I do that sort of learning for a living. So I have everything to learn but the general concepts seem right up my alley.
So about the machine. In my experience, one ends up spending more money trying to find parts than if one bought a kit.
So I have been considering the 1000mm x 1000mm xyz carve from 3dtek with the GRBL AIO and the Makita router.
It is not entirely clear what the maximum Z travel is but this is my main concern.
Is this machine suitable for wooden reliefs? Like landscapes or intricate designs etc.
Regardless of what the theoretical Z travel is, do I need to worry about flex as it cuts deep?
Do I need to look at something more expensive?
Any and all advise would be great.
Dave.
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10th April 2017, 10:10 PM #2SENIOR MEMBER
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This is it?
https://3dtek.xyz/products/x-carve-p...oko-2-cnc-mill
Certainly a good idea to buy a complete machine for a start as there are enough things to learn without building and getting the machine working properly first.
( I have some electronics back ground as well.)
General consensus seems to be that a better machine can be built for similar money but there are disadvantages.....
Not sure if this machine will handle hardwood at all, although it has two gantry steppers. Router power may be a bit low as well.
Flex is a concern. ( 'always' with Gantry CNC Routers) Looked on U Tube to see if there is anyone discussing their machine?
Even if you buy it , learn to drive it, but it won't do what you want, you could sell it and get something more to your liking later on.
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11th April 2017, 10:00 AM #3GOLD MEMBER
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Yes. That's the one.
Although I have a background in such things I suspect I will struggle initially due to being out if practice, time poor and my bad back limits how much I can do in a day. So perhaps you are right about using it to learn. However I need to produce some good quality reliefs to realise some 'business benefit outcomes' that the 'finance director' can see.
You see the 'finance director' doesn't approve of my proposals to acquire machinery. The exception is that she does approve of me acquiring a cnc machine since I showed her a youtube video of a cnc carving a relief in wood. She can visualise some projects and see how the machine achieves these.
For some reason she doesn't grasp the importance and value of some more fundamental machinery.
So if I can produce the quality reliefs that she would like then it would be easier to build a 'business case' for other things I need. I'm more likely to get approval from the 'chief financial officer' that way.
However spending all that money and failing to produce the reliefs she wants would be a serious set back to the 'business transformation programme' otherwise known as kitting out the shed.
If you catch my drift.
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11th April 2017, 11:31 AM #4SENIOR MEMBER
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I'm pickin' up what you are putin' down.....
I suggest emailing the manufacturers and asking them about cutting hardwoods, directly.
Best way to find out for sure, I guess.
Maybe google CNC Router hardwoods and see what spec machines pop up and compare.
My gut feeling is that it was not designed to cut hardwoods. Probably, plastics and softwoods, but I'm guessing....
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11th April 2017, 10:35 PM #5GOLD MEMBER
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Am I correct to assume that hardwoods are best to get detailed reliefs with a cnc spindle or is that a false assumption?
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12th April 2017, 08:47 AM #6GOLD MEMBER
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I've been carving various woods for more than 15 years. Sizes from 15 cm to 150cm.
Hardwoods with no visually obvious pores are the best choice for detail.
I can carve with a Dremel @ 15k rpm, a RotoZip @ 20k and a Dremel SawMax @ 30k.
By hand, these are tedious machines to control for over-runs.
Conifers/softwoods with low ring counts 12/inch or less are useless/soft. 20-50 rings/inch is best.
The major issue is that conifer woods split easily. Under a CNC machine, you may not notice anything wromg until tomorrow
only to discover bits missing.
I'm positive that the same test pattern, made in 4? different woods for inspection will give you the answer.
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24th April 2017, 01:22 PM #7GOLD MEMBER
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The X-Carve forum is obviously dominated by North Americans and they recommend Poplar, Maple and Cherry. What would be similar timbers in Australia?
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