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11th Jan 2012, 05:45 PM
|  | Hewer of wood | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Melbourne Age: 59
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| |  Product review ... ethics
May I suggest to the forum owner that anyone who posts a product review, anywhere on the forum, declares any interest in it?
That may be payment for the review or keeping the product provided at no cost by the manufacturer, importer or retailer.
This is standard in several fields (eg. medical research, food or travel journalism) and makes clear to the reader whether there may be any conflict of interest on the part of the reviewer.
__________________ Cheers, Ern Website 'For the great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie — deliberate, contrived, and dishonest — but the myth — persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.' J.F. Kennedy, 1962 |
11th Jan 2012, 05:54 PM
|  | Neander Normite | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Melbourne Age: 53
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Ern, the place for a product 'review' by a manufacturer or retailer is in the Announcements Forum. Usually we just move them but after a few we take heavier action. Best idea is to report the post so we can deal with it.
Other members performing 'reviews' will be assessed on a case-by-case basis i.e. someone who is a known friend or associate doing a review or giving glowing references. Depending on the circumstances that could come back on both parties.
In the event a member derives some benefit from the review (free gift etc) they should mention it as a simple courtesy to their readers to make up their own mind as to whether the review may be biased or not. |
11th Jan 2012, 11:51 PM
|  | Diamond Member | | Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Plenty, Melbourne. Age: 47
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I'm pretty much with Ern on this one. I've always seen this forum as the last bastion of integrity as far as honesty goes. I look at some of the woodworking blogs around and often question their integrity. A honest product review should review comparable products in the same category, not just one. After that, the reviewers peers should then be able to ask questions.
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12th Jan 2012, 12:16 AM
| | Neander Normite | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Melbourne Age: 53
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Gents, we are drafting some guidelines. I should point out there has been very little, if any, question on this issue up to now. If there have been suspicions they have not been advised to the admin team (that I am aware of).
As to the type of review and inclusion of comparisons, that is likely beyond the capability of most members, particularly on expensive items, unless a desktop comparison is performed on specs only. That brings another set of issues as specs are often widely different eg Chinese HP versus German HP. 
Finally, a rule that applies across all of the forums will be hard to enforce. We have bother getting people to read the rules now, let alone follow them. It may be possible to make the rule but will people actually think of reading the rule if doing a write-up of a pen kit, CNC machine, boat plans etc? I think it will work for the 'Reviews' forum but will be more difficult to manage in ALL the forums. |
12th Jan 2012, 08:51 AM
| | Hewer of wood | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Melbourne Age: 59
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By 'review' I mean a description of an item, a judgement of it and maybe a recommendation. A comparative evaluation is an order of magnitude greater.
Declarations are fairly common in some parts of the forum without being mandated (usually stating 'no connection' etc); not in others. So it's more of a practice we're looking to encourage and mods and regular posters could model it throughout the forum. A sticky in this section would help here.
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14th Jan 2012, 07:55 PM
|  | Dehydrated Hydrographer | | Join Date: Jun 1999 Location: Westleigh, Sydney Age: 65
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I agree, and have added a disclaimer to my SmartHinge review. |
14th Jan 2012, 09:36 PM
|  | Golden Member | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: BELL POST HILL, 3215 Age: 75
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Hi All,
I would like to buy into this matter.
I like to speak my mind, & if I find something, that may help others as it has most likely helped me.
NO WAY am I connected to the Product or the People selling same.
Yes, I know Neil & Pauline, Jim & Irene very well.
It is just they both have great Products & if I find something exceptional, I will most likely say so.
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issatree.
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20th Jan 2012, 02:44 PM
| | Jim | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rsser  By 'review' I mean a description of an item, a judgement of it and maybe a recommendation. A comparative evaluation is an order of magnitude greater.
Declarations are fairly common in some parts of the forum without being mandated (usually stating 'no connection' etc); not in others. So it's more of a practice we're looking to encourage and mods and regular posters could model it throughout the forum. A sticky in this section would help here. | I agree with Ern. Glad you're looking at it Groggy.
cheers,
Jim |
20th Jan 2012, 03:46 PM
| | Neander Normite | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Melbourne Age: 53
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A sticky post has now been placed in the Reviews Forum. |
21st Jan 2012, 09:52 AM
| | Jim | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Victoria
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thanks Groggy.
cheers,
Jim |
21st Jan 2012, 09:55 AM
| | Hewer of wood | | Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Melbourne Age: 59
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Thanks.
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