Thread: 4-6-2 Tank Locomotive - Circa 1910

Looking real good.
The trouble with the cab side walls are that they are mirror images, makes it easy to get one right and stuff the other up.
The fireman's side (right) would only have a few things, drain valve lever, perhaps blow down valve, cab sprinkler hose and I don't think much else. Most important - some sort of seat for when the fireman gets a breather.
I think you have the color pretty spot on even if it is two tone.

Hi All,

Been working on the Fireman's side of the cabin. As Kevin (Handyjack) said - not a lot of controls, but this side has been enjoyable to make - ( I enjoyed making the water tap). The holes around the top and down the side are for rivets. I will again be using the heads of spiral nails as my rivets as they are the most "lifelike" I have found. Thought I would show a WIP that is not painted. The "table" section is MDF with a pine inner frame. The shaft bearings are pine. The handles and linkages are aluminium. The tap is made of a number of different components made out of aluminium and mild steel.

Regards

Keith

cabin side A.jpg

NICE!
Looking Awesome Mate!

Cheers
Trev.

Looking good as always Keith. When they designed these trains they did not think about catching your ankles of things like the tap

Originally Posted by Dalboy

Looking good as always Keith. When they designed these trains they did not think about catching your ankles of things like the tap

Thanks Derek,

No - that is correct. The tap is in the exact position it is in the original locomotive. Nowadays there would be "Risk Assessments" etc. I love the "old world" charm of the steam loco cabin. No luxuries here

Regards

Keith

Hi All,

Finished and painted the Fireman's side of the cab. Now onto the drivers side where the majority of the controls are. Decided not to add walls of the cab yet as it will restrict my access. Took a photo of the whole loco to give overall perspective of cabin and loco. I'm happy how it's progressing but the next step with the driver controls will be quite difficult I think.

Regards

Keith

cabin fireman.jpg

Looks great now it has been painted. But I would sack the fireman for not keeping the footplate clean

Nice job Keith I can't wait to see the the drivers side.

Originally Posted by Dalboy

Looking good as always Keith. When they designed these trains they did not think about catching your ankles of things like the tap

Originally Posted by Dalboy

Looks great now it has been painted. But I would sack the fireman for not keeping the footplate clean

Looking good Keith.

In 1910 OH & S and crew comfort were not considered. The crew may have been expected to be on their feet for the whole of their shift. Just so the fireman does not catch his ankles/calf/knee on the tap and so he and his driver can keep clean, you could make a bucket to fit under the tap. When you look at the real thing, you notice the tap is up reasonably high. https://www.woodworkforums.com/attach...1&d=1431772845

With the drivers side, just start with the brake gauges in the corner, then do the reversing lever and quadrant, then make up the straight air and automatic brake valves and finish off with the piping. I am not sure, but where the cab sheet is bent there may have been some padding.

Originally Posted by Dalboy

Looks great now it has been painted. But I would sack the fireman for not keeping the footplate clean

We can't blame the Fireman yet Derek. Still have to put floorboards on the footplate that's a bit down the track.

I have made a muckup on the Fireman's side. I used wrong measurements and the side "table" is actually the extension of the side water tank. Thanks to the member who pointed it out by a PM - most appreciated
So the fireman's side get a major rework. Kicking myself on how I missed this basic error Thanks

Regards

Keith

Don't stress about the muck up Keith, it would be easy to do, particularly once you start scaling things. It will just delay the project a bit, no big deal as the completion date is before Christmas (probably next year). More of a problem when fabricating parts on full size projects and a measurement or two is mucked up. Can cost $$.

It still looks good.

Originally Posted by Handyjack

Don't stress about the muck up Keith, it would be easy to do, particularly once you start scaling things. It will just delay the project a bit, no big deal as the completion date is before Christmas (probably next year). More of a problem when fabricating parts on full size projects and a measurement or two is mucked up. Can cost $$.

It still looks good.

Thanks Kevin,

Well under way with the modifications. Need to also make new hand levers as these were scaled to my "muckup". As you say - no problems - allows me extra time in the shed

Regards

Keith

Hi All,

After my muck up - This is what it should have looked like. I have done a bit of work extending the height to the height of the side water tank. The join you can see in the photo doesn't worry me as it a "weld" as per the original locomotive (that's my story anyway)

My error in calculations and scaling off photos meant that I needed to modify the position of the water tap. So now it's not an ankle trip point.

As per Handyjack's suggestion I have made up a water bucket for under the tap. I had a bit of a redgum table leg. I cut it to about 75mm long and then turned the OD. I then put it in my metal lathe and machined the OD at a 2.5 degree taper. I drilled using a forstner bit and then I used a boring bar to get my inner taper at 2.5 degrees. The handle is 3mm MS rod that I bent around a mandrel I made up to get the correct radius.

Also had to make up a longer lever handle.

Now when starting on the drivers side - I will take a lot longer with my study of photos and design work.

Regards

Keith

Modified Fireman side.jpg

Keith, you have beaten me to the punch.

Attached image of top of line metal bucket with wood on handle. You will note the price (10/6 that's ten shillings and six pence) which suggest that this bucket is old enough to have been bought when the engine was still operating.

The tap and tank now look correct.