Metal bolts in wooden threads.

[Alexkara]

Does anyone else feel these WW taps are a solution to a problem that doesn't exist? Standard metal cutting taps work perfectly well in wood. I've been taping holes in hardwood for ages. Never had a problem. For threads that get used a lot, like in jig adjustment, I prefer a threaded insert.

I have used standard metal taps for ages too and when I require torque, I use threaded inserts as well. Standard metal taps work perfectly well, but the TWW taps work perfectly better. For that reason alone I wrote the article as there are far too many woodworkers out there that have never considered taping wood and the ones that are now considering the concept and are rushing out to but some taps, I am just suggest they consider the difference the TWW tap offer. At the end of the day if idiots like me didn't venture forth and try new options, we would never hear the word "but they work BETTER" and blunder along in our old ignorant way. I'm sure you still cut your dovetails perfectly as has been done for the last many hundreds of years... I for one prefer to use a jig since I was made aware of them.

[woodPixel]

Im going to buy some. The metric kit; https://thewoodwhispererguild.com/pr...ad-taps-set-5/

Its usd120 plus 22.75 postage (aud180-ish). Its the same post for 2 kits .... if anyone wishes to split post with me, I'll be ordering Tuesday. IM or email me perhaps.

I can use these for several ongoing client projects that use M6 and M8 fasteners and inserts already, so they make very good sense to me.

Evan

[Alexkara]

..... I'm going to buy some.....
Evan

I'm confident you will not regret it. The only down side is that you can't buy them individually (like the imperial ones), however, I'm sure you'll make use of the M10 and M12. I find that M14 may be a bit beefy for my requirements and I'll probably use 3/4" wooden threads/bolts instead.

Nevertheless, you never know, there may be readers out there that may offer to split the cost for the redundant taps.

Alex

[powderpost]

I have been making wooden face plates for my lathe for years now, with out a failure. I bought the 30 x 3.5 tap from McJings for $18. I also use standard 10mm taps and 6mm taps with steel bolts to make jigs.

Jim

[62woollybugger]

M14 bolts are a non standard size in Australia, so you won't be able to get bolts etc from normal hardware stores, only specialty suppliers. I think they should have either dropped the M14 & made a 4 piece set or included M16, which is standard, instead.

[Alexkara]

M14 bolts are a non standard size in Australia, so you won't be able to get bolts etc from normal hardware stores, only specialty suppliers. I think they should have either dropped the M14 & made a 4 piece set or included M16, which is standard, instead.

Go tell The Wood Whisperer that. How inconsiderate of him not to catere for woodworkers that don't use M14 (for whatever reason)! There are many things I cannot get in Australia that I have to source from overseas and accept whatever is offered, if I want it. I probably would never use the M14, however, I wasn't prepared to forgo what I consider a good product for that reason, seeing as how I couldn't buy the taps individually like the imperial ones. My primary intention was to inform woodworkers who have not considered wooden threads and DO NOT own metal taps, that if they just want to tap wood maybe the TWW offer may be a better choice and not to spruik his product. I guess I should pick my words more carefully. Maybe if people are prepared to embrace progress they should also display patience to wait a while till the taps are sold individually and not criticise what is available.

[NCArcher]

M14 bolts are a non standard size in Australia, so you won't be able to get bolts etc from normal hardware stores, only specialty suppliers. I think they should have either dropped the M14 & made a 4 piece set or included M16, which is standard, instead.

I've actually got a 14mm tap. It's a standard size for threaded barrel instruments like proximity sensors. It's a very fine pitch though so not much good for wood.
I'd be interested to see if the metric taps are a coarse thread. I tend to use the imperial taps for wood as they are coarser.

[Alexkara]

I've actually got a 14mm tap. It's a standard size for threaded barrel instruments like proximity sensors. It's a very fine pitch though so not much good for wood.
I'd be interested to see if the metric taps are a coarse thread. I tend to use the imperial taps for wood as they are coarser.

G'Day 'wooly'. To be honest with you I don't go down to the level of pitch, TPI, UNC and all those jargons until it doesn't fit... and then I resort to the science of panic. All I can say is that in the "doco" that tap is referred to as M14x2... hope that means something to you. While I metricated myself soon after 1974, however, I have always found that imperial fasteners somehow felt better. I prefer 1/4" to 6mm and 1/2" to 12mm (both are just that tad beefier). Consequently I also purchased the imperial set.
My "review" was based on the 10mm taps and please don't ask me why... don't!

FYI, these are the "specs" supplied with the taps for identification.
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FAIW, I'm guessing the 14mm taps were moreso marketed for the European market then us Aussies.

[woodPixel]

I don't understand the negativity. Alex has found a thing that may or may not suit some peoples purpose. Im pleased to have found out about them.

The guys who made these certainly feel that there is a need in the market. In the videos, its pretty well explained why they saw the need, how they are used, which drill bit to use and why, what to do with very hard woods as well as a reasonable demo of their holding strengths.

If people want to use metal taps, do so, but I see very little reason to be so critical of a perfectly viable alternative based on "cost" alone. Obviously metal taps are going be cheaper as they will outsell them five hundred million to one, but for a boutique user who really wants a good quality thread for holes, these are great.

The price of postage is always going to be a problem, but with Amazon soon to open they might carry them as one of their Small Seller stock lines.. then again I wouldn't be surprised to see Timbecon take them up (as they have done with Grrippers, Fastcap Kaizen, GluBots, etc)

[Alexkara]

I don't understand the negativity.....

..... Timbecon take them up (as they have done with Grrippers, Fastcap Kaizen, GluBots, etc)

Thanks for the support 'Pixel. As you rightly alluded to, I was not selling the product but trying to provide a layman's thought on what he has discovered to others who, through no fault of their own, were unaware.

Talking about Timbecon... I made one of my rare pilgrimages to Melbourne and managed to find time to visit their showroom. I found these great flush cut pliers
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only because, whenever I go into a toolshop, I always look at their wire cutters in a desperate search to replace a pair of flush cuts I inherited from my father that went walkabouts from my workshop many, many years ago.

If any one is interested in flush cutting (and not those that have perfectly cut wires countless times in the past with their old bevelled side cutters and no...., they will not cut 1/2" bolts like your bolt cutter does), they are not in their catalog or WEB site. You may need to phone.