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    Well today was a great day. My Uncle called me up and asked if I wanted to come get a wood lathe that had belonged to my Grandpa. I said I will be there as fast as I can. After we dug it out of the back of his garage and brought to my house here is what it looks like. From the little research I have done I think I'm not sure that it is a 1930's era Craftsman. It is in very good working order. My Grandpa bought this used in 1970 when he opened his machine shop.

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    Here it is after some cleanup and oiling. Everything works great. It has a 1/2 hp motor.
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    I had to turn something.
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    Well that certainly will get you going. Did you get any turning tools with it or did you use the cross slide to cut the timber

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    I did not get any tools. I used the cross slide. I am currently researching what tools to get. So if anyone has suggestions please share. My focus will obviously be small scale toys.

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    For things like wheels you will be turning those in spindle mode ie timber between centres and grain running along the length. For that best tools are roughing gouge 3/4", Spindle gouges for detail posibly 2 sizes 3/8" for larger detail and 1/4" for finer a parting tool for model work get a thin one 1/16" these will get you started. As a beginner to the lathe don't get a skew chisel until you are happy using the first tools as in the hands of a novice they can bite unless someone can show you how to use correctly.
    These are just to start with and try to buy good quality
    Remember always keep the tools sharp so a bench grinder will be needed
    Sharpening that is another story

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    Thank you Digger,

    And since it will be needed I will have to get a bench grinder. Have wanted one for a long time. I will take you advice on the tools. I only have the spur center and a 4 " face plate. Do I need any other chuck accessories or will this do for now. I was thinking a drill chuck for the tailstock.

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    Bret you should be at the Texas Motor Speedway Hey.I just finished watching it. I think it was live.Maybe not
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    Depending on the head stock thread there are certainly chucks available. Remember that if you buy a chuck to fit this lathe it may not fit all others unless the thread is the same size.
    There are chucks which take inserts so that if you change lathe all that is needed is a new insert at a fraction of the price of a new chuck.
    Try to buy a lightish chuck (Unless you want to do large stuff which looking at the lathe will not be an option) that you can also buy different jaws for as this will help if you need to turn small or large items.
    A drill chuck for the lathe is a great idea if it can be fitted as this is a good way of making sure you get a dead centre hole. Can you knock out the drive centre if so normaly there is a morse taper and also in the tail stock end.
    In my case One of my lathes has a 1MT and the other 2 have 2MT(of which one is metal turning)

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    Bret
    As you know I make Toys etc.
    I have one of these chucks HERE I think they are available in a few Brands
    They come with 4 different Jaw types in a nice box, and take other brand jaw as stated in their advert.Also click on the extra chuck insert tab to see the thread sizes for adapters> I use a small metal lathe and had to get a special one made for mine.
    This pic is the only one I can find at the moment.Will keep looking
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    I believe it has a #2M taper. The live center comes out easy by just backing the wheel all the way out. The headstock threads are 1" x 8tpi which is standard I believe. Thanks for the help guys. I am planning on buying this spur center. I will probably buy a chuck from here as well haven't figured out which yet. I was originally going to buy one of their lathes until I had this wonderful tool fall in my lap.
    http://www.pennstateind.com/store/LCENTQC1.html

    I am also going to buy the above mentioned chisels from Digger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bj383ss View Post
    I believe it has a #2M taper. The live center comes out easy by just backing the wheel all the way out. The headstock threads are 1" x 8tpi which is standard I believe. Thanks for the help guys. I am planning on buying this spur center. I will probably buy a chuck from here as well haven't figured out which yet. I was originally going to buy one of their lathes until I had this wonderful tool fall in my lap.
    1" dia Super Spur Center Insert at Penn State Industries

    I am also going to buy the above mentioned chisels from Digger.

    Bret
    Bret.That spur Centre needs a chuck.It is gripped in a chuck.Saves removing the chuck.Also the chucks that place sells with the extra jaws included are the same as I posted only a different name put on them.Red Box and all.Great for what we need.
    Personally I dont think you need the spur if you get a chuck.to make wheels all you need is a sqr bit of wood put in chuck with suitable jaws as comes with chuck.Put the live or dead centre in the other end and turn wood round.It doesnt need to be long for some wheels.Even if you need to turn 2 bits round it isnt hard
    You can then remowe live centre and work on the wheel or tyre .Maybe if you prefer you could part eash wheel blanl off and work individually on each one in the chuck.It wont take you long to work it out,I can tell you pick things up very quickly.We could do with guys like you in Australia
    PS The chuckI was talking about is this one with 3 or 4 jaw sets or the next one up .Well worth it .If you particularly want the 8" flat jaws it would be $35 US$ more.
    I dont have trouble making wheels upto 7" dia with my chuck,and the 7" limitation is my lathe swing not my Chuck.Can take some pics and send them if you like
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    Wow this is great Bret,
    I go to some medicial appointment and come back to find you already have a wood lathe;
    no wonder you've had a great day.
    You're also receiving expert advice from all over the world to ensure you make the most of this new toy for "Toy Making".
    It'll help heaps with the train.
    Cheers, Crowie

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    Did not mention there are also smaller turning tools for very fine work. Have a look at the range of Robert Sorby tools ( I don't have anything to do with them just a happy customer)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggerdelaney View Post
    For things like wheels you will be turning those in spindle mode ie timber between centres and grain running along the length. ]
    I wouldnt be turning the small wheels this way. Using this method, the walls of the wheel are end grain and I have never been happy with the end grain results on the tyre wall. Maybe its just me but I prefer to turn the wheel on a face plate or in a chuck with the end grain being used for the tread of the tyre. Maybe its the timber I use but I dont get a nice smooth finish on the end grain. Problem is doing it my way using a chuck, I only have a couple of chucks and limited to the size I can turn. Of course, using a faceplate I can make larger wheels.

    Lathe looks good Bret. you will get hours of pleasure on that for sure.
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