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    Don't know why it was submitted ?Excellent job on the Interior Keith .

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    Hi All,

    I have been working on the roof of the carriage.

    I tried to get some Modeller's Ply but no luck. Went to Bunnings and they can get a special order of 2.7mm ply BUT minimum order quantity was 5 sheets. I would need to be making another 10 carriages to utilize this order

    What I did was to follow the suggestion of Handyjack and work on the back side of the sheet.

    I purchased a Villaboard Cutting knife (about $11) with Tungsten Carbide blade

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    I then marked out the back of my roof at 20mm intervals longitudinally along the roof.

    I scored with 2 runs of the knife ( I tried earlier on some scrap pieces and found that any deeper would leave marks on the outer part of the sheet when bent to the curvature)

    I then went along each of the score marks with a 3 square file to form a bit of a vee to allow the sheet some place to move when forced into the curve.

    Then marked out a grid for my nails and then used 1.25 X 20mm nails to secure the roof

    Really happy with the outcome.

    Thanks for suggestions

    Regards

    Keith

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    265.jpg The Rocket locomotive is in background covered to stop dust getting on it.

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    "I tried to get some Modeller's Ply but no luck. Went to Bunnings and they can get a special order of 2.7mm ply BUT minimum order quantity was 5 sheets. I would need to be making another 10 carriages to utilize this order"

    Another 10 carriages; that would make a real train for Rocket. Cathie would be really pleased.

    Glad that I could help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_1 View Post
    I have been working on the roof of the carriage.

    I tried to get some Modeller's Ply but no luck. Went to Bunnings and they can get a special order of 2.7mm ply BUT minimum order quantity was 5 sheets. I would need to be making another 10 carriages to utilize this order
    Pretty certain that you can purchase single sheets from Mr Ply&Wood
    regards from Alberta, Canada

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    A month ago I posted that I had just visited the museum in Manchester but I didn't have the facility to show you pictures. I just arrived home last night and can now submit them. It was great to see school groups learning about Rocket.
    Keep up the good work, Keith. Your WIP means so much more to me now that I have seen the original.
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    Crunchie,

    Thanks for the top photos and your interest in my build.

    Best Regards

    Keith

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    Glad to see the roof sheet has been resolved looks good a nice flowing curve. Some how I don't think even the rocket could pull 10 carriages could it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalboy View Post
    Glad to see the roof sheet has been resolved looks good a nice flowing curve. Some how I don't think even the rocket could pull 10 carriages could it.
    Thanks Derek.

    No I don't think so

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    Could Rocket pull 10 carriages? Not sure. Light traction unit, with only a single driven axle; but the tare weight of the load would also be fairly light. It was designed to pull about 13 1/2 tons with about 2 1/2 tons on the driving wheels.
    The Liverpool and Manchester Railway had little in the way of steep grades and if the rails are dry I am sure 10 carriages could be pulled. Metal wheels roll very easily on metal rails.
    Stopping might be another thing with no brakes, rough buffers and lots of planning required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyjack View Post
    Could Rocket pull 10 carriages? Not sure. Light traction unit, with only a single driven axle; but the tare weight of the load would also be fairly light. It was designed to pull about 13 1/2 tons with about 2 1/2 tons on the driving wheels.
    The Liverpool and Manchester Railway had little in the way of steep grades and if the rails are dry I am sure 10 carriages could be pulled. Metal wheels roll very easily on metal rails.
    Stopping might be another thing with no brakes, rough buffers and lots of planning required.
    Thanks for your excellent knowledge and feedback Kevin

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    Thinking about it, a "typical" coal wagon of the time probably tared at around 500 kg. and carried around a a ton of coal -- which works out to be 9 wagons behind the loco. Which seems 4 too many, so perhaps the numbers need to be re-jigged. Five wagons would carry about 2.7 tons gross -- which seems more reasonable
    regards from Alberta, Canada

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian View Post
    Thinking about it, a "typical" coal wagon of the time probably tared at around 500 kg. and carried around a a ton of coal -- which works out to be 9 wagons behind the loco. Which seems 4 too many, so perhaps the numbers need to be re-jigged. Five wagons would carry about 2.7 tons gross -- which seems more reasonable
    Thanks Ian

    What's the weather like in Canada ?

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    Hi All,

    I have given the roof 3 coats of paint. I used Dulux "Bluescope Ironstone".

    The external luggage rack is 4mm mild steel rod. I have used 5mm split pins as the vertical support. The eyes of the split pin will be filled with bodyfiller and smoothed off. The bodyfiller will also act as the adhesive for the rack. I will be machining up ferrules for the ends of the rod out of aluminium to add an aesthetic touch to the end of the rack.

    Regards

    Keith

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    Have you got any pliers without teeth in the jaws if so try and put an offcut of the wire through the split pin and use the pliers to nip up just below the hole this will help make them round and also tighten them up on the rod. That is how I did it on the model boats when using split pins I also use to soft solder along the join to fill it and secure the wire in place.

    Sorry if you already know this Keith.

    By the way looks great with a bit of paint on the roof

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    Hi Derek,

    Thanks for your tip.

    I will add some wire as you suggested and then enclose with bodyfiller.

    After that the next step will be a seat (or Step) at each end of the carriage outer. This must have been used to access luggage. A bit of fancy bending.

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    Regards
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