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24th September 2012, 12:35 AM #31
Now I get it.
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25th September 2012, 10:34 PM #32
Thanks, WW. I was trying to work out why you'd be comparing it to a cudgel - it didn't really make sense. I take it that as a responsible cyber citizen you'll be informing Wikipedia of their error?
Cheers, Richard
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27th September 2012, 11:22 PM #33
A Double Bow Windsor Chair - Part Four
When the crinoline bow had dried, I cut it to length, formed the tennons on its extremities, rounded it and bored the holes to accept the two stub stretchers. The stub stretchers were turned using the off-cuts from the crinoline bow.
The leg holes were bored into the seat which I then roughed out with a carving disc mounted on an angry grinder and then followed up with a travisher.
Fig. 1. Crinoline and stub stretchers.
After sawing kerfs in the ends of the through tennons, I glued the undercarriage into the seat. Oak wedges were then hammered into the ends of the tennons, locking them into their mortices.
Fig. 2. Partially saddled seat.
Fig. 3. Front leg wedged perpendicular to seat grain.
Fig. 4. Stub stretcher wedged into the crinoline stretcher.
Fig. 5. The blind tennon on the back of the stub is not wedged.
Fig. 6. Chair base completed.
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I know you believe you understand what you think I wrote, but I'm not sure you realize that what you just read is not what I meant.
Regards, Woodwould.
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28th September 2012, 12:43 AM #34
Nice work WW, you have been busy!
I took was confused after doing a search on Sally Rod, thanks for the correction, makes much more sense now.
Looking forward to the rest of the build, very interesting.
Cheers, Ian"The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot.. it can't be done.
If you deal with the lowest bidder it is well to add something for the risk you run.
And if you do that, you will have enough to pay for something better"
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4th October 2012, 11:29 PM #35GOLD MEMBER
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In Fig.3 , the pooch seems to have found something.
Horse sauce??I've just become an optimist . Iv'e made a 25 year plan -oopps I've had a few birthdays - better make that a 20 year plan
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4th October 2012, 11:35 PM #36
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5th October 2012, 12:38 AM #37
"Angry grinder" Love it.
Beautiful work as alwaysanne-maria.
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5th October 2012, 03:32 PM #38Skwair2rownd
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Great stuphph as always WW.
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6th October 2012, 03:26 PM #39
A Double Bow Windsor Chair - Part Five
All has not been running smoothly in the Lemon Studio of late. I recently reported on the making and fitting of the crinoline stretcher, the bending of which didn't cost me a second thought. However, this past week I have been engaged in the Sisyphean task of trying to bend a 60" x 1-1/4" x 7/8" (152cm x 3.2cm x 2.8cm) arm bow for my chair from the same lump of ash that the stretcher was cut.
The difference is that the stretcher was relatively short and suitable bending stock was easily sourced from the straight grained end of the ash board. The arm bow on the other hand begins as more than twice the length of the stretcher and the weathered old piece of ash at hand unavoidably incorporates some wavy grain. This attractive figure was put to excellent use in making the Mulberry Corner Cabinet, but isn't sufficiently straight or flexuous to be bent into an arm bow – even with the aid of copious steam and a supportive steel strap.
Several of my attempts at forming the arm bow came tantalisingly close to fruition, but each bow went agley in the final moments (fig.1).
The material, time and effort are not a total loss though as a couple of the failed bows will give up their scatheless bends for the two bent arm supports (fig. 2).
Fig. 1. Failure at the point the grain runs out.
Fig. 2. Intact bend will be reused.
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I know you believe you understand what you think I wrote, but I'm not sure you realize that what you just read is not what I meant.
Regards, Woodwould.
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6th October 2012, 04:29 PM #40
Always interesting to view your posts Woodwould, I've enjoyed following the chair WIP
The language lessons have however been a bonus: "Agley" - no not just a careless typo but a word not heard by me before, now understood and this followed by "scatheless" which I am not sure has been explained fully by the definitions sourced from the net but sufficiently to get the idea.
Cheers, Ian"The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot.. it can't be done.
If you deal with the lowest bidder it is well to add something for the risk you run.
And if you do that, you will have enough to pay for something better"
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6th October 2012, 04:47 PM #41GOLD MEMBER
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I've just become an optimist . Iv'e made a 25 year plan -oopps I've had a few birthdays - better make that a 20 year plan
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6th October 2012, 05:01 PM #42
I'm a new boy in Australia, so it's not surprising that I might bring some fresh vocabulary, especially as many older words and expressions persist where I came from in Norn Iron. The missus encounters many raised eyebrows at work when she voices words or expressions she's picked up from me. Scatheless means intact or uninjured.
Not so much unexpected as disappointed... and frustrated. Tomorrow's another day!.
I know you believe you understand what you think I wrote, but I'm not sure you realize that what you just read is not what I meant.
Regards, Woodwould.
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13th October 2012, 11:48 AM #43
A Double Bow Windsor Chair - Part Six
Note to self: The next time you want to bend a 1-1/4" x 1-1/8" (32mm x 28mm) section arm bow, have patience and wait until you can lay your hands on some freshly felled stock.
I came frustratingly close to perfection on several occasions, but all up, I wasted six air dried ash sticks (four of them tapered) and two air dried oak sticks before achieving success. That success only came about when I reduced the width of the stock and ended up bending a uniform 1-1/8" (28mm) square section of oak. That eighth-of-an-inch made all the difference. Thanks to Glen for coming to my aid with a suitable lump of oak.
Two of the failed ash arm bows yielded a couple of decent bends which will become the arm posts. I cut the bends from the arm bows and rounded them in preparation for inserting them into the seat.
Fig. 1. The quercine arm bow.
I sawed and planed a piece of 3/8" (10mm) thick oak and after drawing the outline of the backsplat onto it; I cut it out and tidied it up.
Fig. 2. Bent arm posts.
The arm post holes were bored into the seat and the arms were temporarily knocked into place to enable their tops to be sawn off level with the underside of the arm bow.
Fig. 3. Shaped backsplat.
The tops of this type of arm post were traditionally nailed and/or screwed to the underside of the arm bow (fig. 5).
Fig. 4. Fitting the arm posts.
Fig. 5. Large steel screw attaching arm post to arm. Note also the use of branch wood for the arm bow.
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I know you believe you understand what you think I wrote, but I'm not sure you realize that what you just read is not what I meant.
Regards, Woodwould.
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13th October 2012, 12:20 PM #44Jim
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Definitely didn't gang agley this time. As ever, a delight to watch.
Cheers,
jim
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13th October 2012, 12:20 PM #45
Perhaps that is why the Windsor chairs have that shaped arm bow? The wood workers of old probably ended up with quite a few scathed pieces as well. looking good as always.
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