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    Default A George III Mahogany Kneehole Desk

    I spend quite a bit of time in my office, yet I find it one of the least appealing environments: There are a couple of nice pieces of case furniture, a few antique prints on the walls and part of my collection of eighteenth century porcelain is displayed here too, but for all that, the idyll is compromised by the (albeit necessary) electronic gadgetry and it is entirely let down by a cheap-and-nasty wood grained particleboard computer desk.

    The glued-on edging began peeling off the desk from new and is currently secured with staples. This frightful behemoth is long overdue for replacement and offers one of a declining number of opportunities to wheel another piece of my furniture into the house.

    The alternatives


    Library tables

    I like library tables for their airiness and uncluttered appearance, but I have accumulated so much stuff that I need all the storage I can muster.


    Fig. 1. George II mahogany library table, c.1740. (Jamb Ltd.)

    Even with five drawers, this attractive table doesn't meet my requirements.


    Fig. 2. George III mahogany library table, c.1765. (Christie's)

    Pedestal desks

    Pedestal desks tend to be rather substantial although their three-part construction (two individual pedestals bridged by a securely located desk top) allows easy disassembly for transportation. A pedestal desk would suit me admirably; however, while I covet the expansive top and storage they afford – up to eighteen drawers – I simply can not shoehorn a pedestal desk into my present office.


    Fig. 3. George III mahogany pedestal desk, c.1785. (Christie's)

    Kneehole desks

    Technically, kneehole desks also incorporate pedestals, but their diminutive size means they can be constructed in one piece.

    There are two basic styles of kneehole desks; those with a through space between the pedestals and those with a cupboard and/or drawers occupying the rear of the kneehole. Drawer configuration can vary greatly with single, twin or triple top drawers, apron drawer (figs. 4 and 5) and anywhere between two and four drawers per side.


    Fig. 4. George III mahogany kneehole desk with apron drawer and kneehole drawers, c.1750. (Christie's)


    Fig. 5. George III mahogany kneehole desk with twin top drawers, kneehole cupboard and ogee bracket feet, c.1770 (Christie's)


    Fig. 6. George III Horseflesh Mahogany (Lysiloma sabicu) kneehole desk, with plain plinth base, c.1765. (Christie's)


    Fig. 7. George III mahogany kneehole desk, with inset leather and plain bracket feet, c.1770. (Christie's)


    Fig. 8. George III mahogany kneehole desk, with triple top drawers, c.1810. (Christie's)

    My desk


    I shudder when I see the imprint of a ballpoint pen in polished wood, so I will opt for an inset leather writing surface which teaches one better writing habits.

    Working at the computer occupies a good proportion of my time and I must move my legs and feet frequently, so a kneehole unencumbered by a cupboard or drawers is essential.

    A single top drawer, at almost four feet long, will not only be an interminable mess within (unless internally sub-divided), but is also inconvenient, requiring the sitter to withdraw entirely from the desk no matter in which corner of the drawer access is sought. Three short drawers are capable of being kept relatively tidy, and will also permit ready access with the minium of displacement of the sitter. At the expense of an additional handle or two, there will be two or three top drawers in my desk.

    Three top drawers (figs. 2, 3 and 8 – with the outer two the same width as the drawers below it) look quite neat and tidy. However, the concentration of carcase elements at the junction of the desk top and pedestals can considerably weaken that area of desks without some form of bracing structure within the kneehole, such as cupboards or drawers – hence the frequent appearance of brackets to add some needed strength (fig. 8).

    A sounder arrangement would have any vertical top drawer dividers staggered so as not to coincide with the inner pedestal gables. I'm not keen on the layout in fig. 9 though.


    Fig. 9. George III mahogany desk with triple top drawers, c.1780. (Christie's)

    I would dearly love to make something again with ogee bracket feet (figs. 5 and 9), but I recall a couple of months spent at an hotel in Bray in County Wicklow many years ago, in which was a kneehole desk with ogee feet. I still wince at the memory of catching my tali on the protruding feet. It will be plain bracket feet for this kneehole and I'll reserve the ogee feet for a chest of drawers or some such at a later date!

    I am of two minds whether or not to fit brass lifting handles (figs. 8, 10 and 11) to the desk sides. On the one hand, they can afford otherwise bland carcase sides a degree of interest, but on the other hand, being generally ornamental, they were never intended to be used for lifting furniture of this mass. This doesn't appear to dissuade belligerent removers – no matter how many times they are forewarned of the consequences – from grabbing hold of them and either wrenching the bails from the pivots, or tearing the entire handles off the sides of the furniture.


    Fig. 10. George III mahogany kneehole desk, c.1770.


    Fig. 11. George III mahogany kneehole desk, c.1760.
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    Regards, Woodwould.

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    Another WIP to follow, but might miss most if not all due to travel arrangements. Unless WW gets it completed in the next 18 hours.

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    WW, I was looking at Fig 11 and the panel under the desk where the legs and feet go, what does it do?. It seems not to be at the back but is on a hinge and lock for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superbunny View Post
    WW, I was looking at Fig 11 and the panel under the desk where the legs and feet go, what does it do?. It seems not to be at the back but is on a hinge and lock for some reason.

    SB
    It's just a cupboard. Central cupboards were common, central drawers less so.
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    Regards, Woodwould.

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    WW, the more you contribute, the more I learn!! love the history lessons and explanations almost as much as the crafting sessions.

    My concern with any such desk is the discomfort that comes with sitting at them.

    In the fully fledged era of the mini skirt, desks were provided with privacy screens. This effectively made them very much like the desks you describe above. ( I know, I know!! That is actually a sacrilegious statement ) Many people found them uncomfortable to sit at because of the restricted room for their legs.

    I digress! On with the lessons. I have place my stump in th front row and have ordered in the lamingtons.

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    Woodwould, it never occurred to me that the many posts you have typed, regarding classic eighteenth century furniture, were done while seated at a chipboard desk with staples holding the edging on.
    The time we enjoy wasting is not wasted time.

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    AAAHA a 17th century computer desk
    Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I´m not so sure about the universe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 3 toed sloth View Post
    Woodwould, it never occurred to me that the many posts you have typed, regarding classic eighteenth century furniture, were done while seated at a chipboard desk with staples holding the edging on.
    Nice one.
    Cheers,
    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3 toed sloth View Post
    Woodwould, it never occurred to me that the many posts you have typed, regarding classic eighteenth century furniture, were done while seated at a chipboard desk with staples holding the edging on.
    Actually, I do other work on the 'puter; my WIPs are typed on a lap top while sitting up in an eighteenth-century bed, or on the lavatory.
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    Regards, Woodwould.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodwould View Post
    Actually, I do other work on the 'puter; my WIPs are typed on a lap top while sitting up in an eighteenth-century bed, or on the lavatory.
    To much information, with having to listen to my Mother describe her bowel habits, and now the mental image of WW sending dispatches whilst on an 18th century loo all in the same week, I think my head is going to explode.
    Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I´m not so sure about the universe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Spencer View Post
    To much information, with having to listen to my Mother describe her bowel habits, and now the mental image of WW sending dispatches whilst on an 18th century loo all in the same week, I think my head is going to explode.
    As long as it's only your head
    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Spencer View Post
    To much information, with having to listen to my Mother describe her bowel habits, and now the mental image of WW sending dispatches whilst on an 18th century loo all in the same week, I think my head is going to explode.
    Actually, our lavatory is Ptolemaic (305 BC to 30 BC).
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    Regards, Woodwould.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodwould View Post
    Actually, our lavatory is Ptolemaic (305 BC to 30 BC).
    Does that mean you have an official wiper ?
    Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I´m not so sure about the universe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodwould View Post
    Actually, I do other work on the 'puter; my WIPs are typed on a lap top while sitting up in an eighteenth-century bed, or on the lavatory.
    Any chair being planned to suit the desk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue-deviled View Post
    Any chair being planned to suit the desk?
    Not in the short term, but eventually I fancy making the ubiquitous desk chair...
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    I know you believe you understand what you think I wrote, but I'm not sure you realize that what you just read is not what I meant.


    Regards, Woodwould.

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