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4th Feb 2012, 02:23 AM
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| | Help me Please Hi Guys, I have a little Problem (actually Big one) But before I'd like to introduce myself, My name is Mohammed Salem I'm from Egypt 23 years old, I like woodworking so much , so i decided to take as my new career next to my original one ( Arabic teacher) , any way my problem is : I'm building a wardrobe (2000mm wide 2300mm High) i haven't attached the Back yet and it is rocking like a rocking chair I had a thought that if i attached the back it will rock again, if there anyway to reinforce it before adding the back please help me .
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4th Feb 2012, 12:34 PM
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| | Hi Mohammed, welcome to the forums.
Wouldn't attaching the back fix your problem? You shouldn't (by my reckoning) have to do anything else before attaching the back.
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4th Feb 2012, 01:09 PM
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| | Hi Mohammed
what you describe is normal
attaching the back will square up the wardrobe and stop the rocking
just make sure the back fits into a rebate and is well fixed to the side of the cabinet
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5th Feb 2012, 09:53 AM
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| | hi mohammed
my assistant is from egypt and his name is mohammed what are you using to build the sides, tops.... solid wood or melamine ?ithink u guys use solid wood for everthing . what i do is i use a thin piece of wood and screw it on the back diagonaly from top to bottom, add one more so you create an X in the back i usally do that to hang the doors on without a back
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6th Feb 2012, 02:43 AM
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| | I agree with greek carpenter. You need some form of diagonal bracing to keep your wardrobe square, especially if making it from engineered wood. If you are going to include shelves they will help with bracing the structure. If you have a bottom shelf/floor panel that is above floor level, you could fit some corner brackets underneath that would be hidden from view. | 
6th Feb 2012, 03:59 AM
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6th Feb 2012, 04:01 AM
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| | the first pic is what it should be in Sketchup and the others are the real work i'd like to say it is square now , but it rocks when i slide the doors | 
6th Feb 2012, 07:54 AM
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| | Putting the back on will sort it. I don't think additional bracing would add anything more. | 
6th Feb 2012, 08:14 AM
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| | As the guys above have said, thats normal and the backing will fix it. Looks like a great project. Well done. Wow this one has become a great mix of nations | 
6th Feb 2012, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by NZStu Putting the back on will sort it. I don't think additional bracing would add anything more. | Hi Mohammed,
the others are right. The back should stop any movement in the frame. It is rather tall however, and any slight racking at the front will cause problems for the doors to slide smoothly.
Often, wardrobes of this size and bigger are built into the walls and form a continuous line with the doors as the cut off to the room. This keeps them rigid.
If there is still movement after the back is attached, then fixing the back to the wall in a couple of places may help - even better if one end is attached to the side wall - ie the wardrobe is housed in the corner of the room.
Hope this helps.
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6th Feb 2012, 12:34 PM
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| | war 2.jpg Quote:
Originally Posted by Scribbly Gum Hi Mohammed,
the others are right. The back should stop any movement in the frame. It is rather tall however, and any slight racking at the front will cause problems for the doors to slide smoothly.
Often, wardrobes of this size and bigger are built into the walls and form a continuous line with the doors as the cut off to the room. This keeps them rigid.
If there is still movement after the back is attached, then fixing the back to the wall in a couple of places may help - even better if one end is attached to the side wall - ie the wardrobe is housed in the corner of the room.
Hope this helps.
SG | actually traditional egyptian woodworkers will buil (3500 mm wide * 2600 mm high) wardrobes and it won't rack at all. but they don't share their knowledge at all.
any way i have an idea that i'll show you now on google sketch up tell me your opinion please war 2.jpg | 
6th Feb 2012, 06:56 PM
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| | Mohammed
will your wardrobe have a wooden or manufactured board back?
can you fix the back before pushing the wardrobe against the wall?
If no, can you firmly fix the uprights against the wall?
If you do this so the uprights are vertical and square, your wobble should go away
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9th Feb 2012, 11:27 AM
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