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Thread: Hinges for blanket chests?
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23rd May 2013, 02:53 PM #1
Hinges for blanket chests?
Would you recommend these Brusso hinges (largest sizes, below), which are tidy and have a built-in stop but may not offer enough strength, or go to strap hinges (and which would you recommend?), that are not as modern looking?
Brusso® Box Hinges - Lee Valley Tools
The Brusso hinges are neat. They have a stop. But all the stress is around the screws. Spreading the load along a strap makes more sense, although I dislike the look of straps.
The dimensions of the lid is 3/4" thick hardwood, about 3' long x 2' wide.
Regards from Perth
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23rd May 2013, 03:05 PM #2
I would envisage the screws tearing out with such a large lid.
If the straps are unsightly, how about large quadrant hinges? More work involved but very nice.The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.
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23rd May 2013, 03:54 PM #3GOLD MEMBER
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Derek, I got the Rockler hinges designed for chests. They are great and require no additional support - will hold the lid at any angle. A bit expensive, but worth it. https://www.woodworkforums.com/f187/b...-chest-166895/
Bob
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23rd May 2013, 04:44 PM #4
Hi Bob
That is a nice chest you built. I think that the Rockler hinges (which I have been aware of), with their contemporary styling, suit it because of your painted finish. My chest makes a feature of the wood used, and I would like something to compliment this.
The quadrant hinges are a possibility - how would they hold up to the load of a heavy lid?
Regards from Perth
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23rd May 2013, 05:28 PM #5
Google Blacksmith made strap hinges. Blacksmithing is a reviale craft and you'll probably one or two in Perth. He/she could make matching handles as well or just nice butts with a brake.
Cheers, Bill
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23rd May 2013, 05:41 PM #6SENIOR MEMBER
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Hi Derek.
How about something like this. Not as nice looking as the Brusso, but less likely to pull the screws out or allow the lid to turn into a guillotine
Philip.
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how would they hold up to the load of a heavy lid?Bob
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23rd May 2013, 08:05 PM #8
Hi Derek,
Without knowing the dimensions of the hinges, I still believe you would be OK using three of the large Brusso hinges. I guess the thing that will ultimately decide it is the width of the box sides. If they are 19 mm as is the lid, I think you'll be fine.
One thing I have done with Blanket boxes is to leave an overhang at the back which will rest against the back of the box, thus removing some of the stress on the screws in the hinges.
You can see what I mean at http://www.talkfestool.com/vb/woodworking-projects/5559-blanket-box-spotted-gum.html
The hinges I used for this box were 38mm butt hinges. Three of them worked fine. The two soft close hinges were of little use!!
Note that the sides of the box are 16 mm.
Regards,
Rob
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23rd May 2013, 11:42 PM #9
Hi Derek
another approach is to use a strap or chain to limit the travel of the lid to just less than the angle at which the Brusso self stop "engages"regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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23rd May 2013, 11:57 PM #10
It is slowly soaking into my brain that ordinary butt hinges will work as long as there is a chain or adjustable rod to take up the strain when the lid is opened.
Regards from Perth
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26th May 2013, 02:15 AM #11Senior Member
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Hi , Derek - having a blanket chest in my wish list , I will probably use quadrant stays on the sides , to reinforce the hinges. There are solid brass things available , that would look Ok on furniture. (They are made for windows , , strong enough)
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26th May 2013, 03:41 AM #12
Thanks Ivan, that sparked my memory.
I think I have found a simple, tidy solution. Not cheap, but combines hinge and stay. A large quadrant hinge. TFWW sell the Brusso, which is 1 1/2" x 1/2".
Now the question is, will this be strong enough for a chest (as the design is more typically used on a box)? Is this size large enough? Is there a larger one available?
If I were to use brass butt hinges, I would have gone for 2 or 3 in a 2" length.
Regards from Perth
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26th May 2013, 11:13 PM #13
Hi Derek
I don't think so
the lever arm on the hings appears too short in relation to the lever represented by the lid
perhaps this one from Rockler? http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...5&site=ROCKLER
or perhaps http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...4&site=ROCKLER
or perhaps http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?p...5&site=ROCKLER
regards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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29th May 2013, 03:00 PM #14
Hinges for blanket chests?
I am at the same point with a box, Derek and while I'm sure my solution is not as pleasing as what you're aiming for, it was pretty cheap.
I just got some reverse butt hinges for $8 the pair and a pair of brass stays for $10 at my local hardware store (a proper old-school hardware). They make for a somewhat stronger fixing than a butt hinge at any rate.
I haven't finished fitting them but I had to mortice one side fairly deep to account for the gap between the leaves and make the lid finish flush. I'll just fit a packer to tidy it up.
I'll be interested to see how you solve it.
Cheers
Matt
ImageUploadedByTapatalk1369799996.032691.jpgImageUploadedByTapatalk1369800016.900729.jpg...I'll just make the other bits smaller.
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29th May 2013, 03:22 PM #15
Hi Matt
That looks good, excellent really. I have gone around and around with this issue - and I am still building the box and not even at a point where I can use the hinges. I wanted to be able to order them, if necessary, and have them ready.
At this point I am leaning strongly your way. Basically brass butt hinges and a brass stay. Your hinge design looks to be stronger than a butt hinge as it offers more support (not just around the screws). Are they solid brass or brass plated? Where did you get them?
Oh, and a few pics of your blanket chest are required! What can be seen looks good.
Regards from Perth
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