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    Arrow HSC Circular Huon Dining Table

    hi all,
    i'm just starting the HSC and have decided to make a circular pedestal dining table, based on the attached image
    The top and base will be made of huon pine, with the skirting and pedestal a contrasting jarrah.


    Instead of the pedestal being an octagon im planing to make a tapered hexagonal prism. The table top will be about 1000mm diameter, meaning that the widest part of the pedestal (bottom) can not exceed about 450mm as to allow for leg room. i plan on having it taper up to about 350mm wide at the top.



    I am having trouble working out how the angles i will need to cut the edges of the hexagon sides to achieve the desired look and dimensions. If any one would have any ideas that would be greatly appreciated.


    also bending the skirting. difficult to do with jarrah? steam? laminate? maybe use ply and then vinyl? any suggestions?


    Thank you
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    Mind is not in the right state to help withe angles but I like the concept and the general design.

    I would stay right away from any tack plastic. It will only cheapen and detract from the piece. Veneering with Jarrah would be my option. If you can't buy the veneer make it yourself - another points getter for your project. Good luck with it.

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    Josh,

    google on "compound angle calculator." It's what the sliding compound mitre saws were originally designed to cut.

    Cheers,

    eddie

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    yes sorry i meant to say veneer, not vinyl. my bad artme. i think i might make my own veneer, thanks for the tip

    thats great eddie, works it all out for you, thank you soo much saved me a lot of time and frustration!

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    Hi Josh,

    Great design to go with.
    The pedestal is a little chunky in my opinion but thats just me.
    Huon and Jarah work well together too. You could even go a bit of Purple Heart for contrast in some fine reeding between the two.

    (Eddie) That calculator site is great. Saves my noodle from frying as math really ain't my thing.

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    ye i know what you mean, but there are like six other people in my class making some sort of table so really wanted mine to be different some how. it does need to be fairly large though to support the top.
    I looked up the purple heart. Never heard of it before. That is amazing!! it almost doesn't look real. will definitely consider. thanks for the suggestion.
    ps whats with the green stuff under people posts. and why is mine grey and small?

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    hey josh.

    these guys are sick, i cant belive how much help they are giving you.

    can you remember what that website was for extension mechanisms?

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    hmmm tell me about it!
    ye i found it the other night, its saved on my desktop, just come and see me at some point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMDonald View Post
    hi all,
    i'm just starting the HSC and have decided to make a circular pedestal dining table, based on the attached image
    The top and base will be made of huon pine, with the skirting and pedestal a contrasting jarrah.

    I am having trouble working out how the angles i will need to cut the edges of the hexagon sides to achieve the desired look and dimensions. If any one would have any ideas that would be greatly appreciated.

    also bending the skirting. difficult to do with jarrah? steam? laminate? maybe use ply and then vinyl? any suggestions?
    Hi Josh

    I think you'll find that the "skirting" has another name
    If you steam or laminate, you'll need to build a former
    me I'd probably use brick lay and cover with a bandsawn veneer unless I was making more than 2 or 3 tops

    the hexagon sides,
    in addition to the URL Eddie provided, maybe do a dimensioned drawing and show the angle
    regards from Alberta, Canada

    ian

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    be super careful when u sand the jarrah wen its all together. maybe mask off the huon as it will seriously mess up the huon, gets in the grain and u cant get it out major pain in the ####. and if your trying to work out the angles for the pedestal do a ful size drawing of the bottom and the top, then drop a line down from the top perpindicular to the ground and measure out to the point of the larger part of the base. then jus measure that distance and you also need the height measurement and plug those figures into the calculator and this will give u the taper. make a block exactly to this taper with one edge square, glue it parallel to an edge on a piece of mdf so that the work then sits on the jig at an angle to the rip fence and then wrk out wat the angle neeeds to be to join them all, so if its 6 sided it would be 30 degrees then tilt the blade on the table saw to this and push the jig through, effectively taking care of both angles in 1 hit!

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    I think you'll find that the "skirting" has another name
    i'm not too sure of the terminology, its just what my teacher is calling it.
    thanks but i've already made and attachment for the router to cut out the perfect jig for the steam or lamination so will probably go with that. thanks will definitely do the drawing.

    be super careful when u sand the jarrah wen its all together
    thanks for the heads up driftit. and really nice explanation of the how to do the angles! thank you so much!

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    The thicknesser baldes have been sharpened and re-installed. that took about six weeks!! so haven't been able to dress my timber.
    In the mean time i made an arm for the router, that when bolted to a board should track the exact radius i desire. i have photos of all my process for the portfolio but have lost my cable to upload.
    haven't really done any other prac work becuase we have an assestment due on our portfolio so have been working on that.

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    wow that is great thanks alex. did you make them yourself? coopering is for making barrels isn't it? probably wouldn't need that.

    Put the Huon Pine through the thinknesser yesterday. came out quite nice. had a bit of an angry grain, but am planning on getting my top drum sanded. It had the most amazing smell when freshly cut and the aroma filled the room. very excited about the project

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    Zenwood did them & posted them here some years ago.
    The pedestal for the table could be considered a barrel, or a truncated hexagonal pyramid. Probably easiest to consider it a pyramid and use the compound mitre formula.
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