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    Default Marble top dresser, the planets align

    I’ve been in a bit of a funk lately and shed production has been affected as I couldn’t quite get ‘into’ any projects? However, timber bought on the recent faFF tour (faFFing around - The Tour de SEQ - photo & fun heavy) and a bit of unrelated inspiration including Tim Minchin, Brian Cox and a cleaned up shed, has me dragging myself up and back into harness. A few years ago, I bought a marble counter top on the forum and it has waited patiently for the planets to align. The design I have been developing is for a marble topped wine dresser but it will require skills I don’t yet have so this could take a while.....
    Today was breaking down one of my precious Australian red cedar slabs and starting to dress timber to rough size. It felt good...

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    The resawing by hand was more a penance issue and a tribute to Bushmiller ..... but I soon returned to the bandsaw!

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    Fletty

    I notice you show a Scheppach track saw in your photo. What do you think of this saw? I have looked at getting one but have yet to take the plunge.

    Thanks in advance

    Ken

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    Quote Originally Posted by KAJ View Post
    Fletty

    I notice you show a Scheppach track saw in your photo. What do you think of this saw? I have looked at getting one but have yet to take the plunge.

    Thanks in advance

    Ken
    Hi Ken, “take the plunge”......... there’s a pun there somewhere ?

    Firstly, it ain’t no Festool BUT, at a third of the price, we can’t expect it to be? I usually use mine to reduce large sheets and slabs that can’t easily be manhandled on the table saw. It cuts straight and square and, as every cut face is to be dressed later anyway, the quality of the cut is more than good enough.
    It’s plusses are
    • price
    • acceptable cut quality;
    • swivelling dust exhaust outlet that DOES take the Festool dust collector snout
    • acceptable build quality
    • acceptable dust pick-up
    • each track segment is ~1400mm long which gives a good overhang/overrun on a 1200 sheet

    It’s minuses (when compared to the Festool):
    • It is noisier and more ‘clunky’
    • the adjustments are not as smooth nor precise
    • it doesn’t slide as smoothly

    It’s minuses (General);
    • the standard clamp to hold the track to the workpiece is an embarrassment to the post Industrial Revolution World! I guess that’s why they offer a better one as an accessory?

    In short, it does everything I need of it and so, given the price difference, it works well for me.
    fletty
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    Good to see the timber being used so quickly!



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    • acceptable dust pick-up
    • That would improve (possibly significantly) with a 36mm hose that goes on the outside of the dust port. Currently that FT 27mm fitting is giving you a choke point of 19mm dia, but the port is probably closer to 36mm dia. That's nearly 4x the cross-sectional area.
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    Btw, what's the OD on the saw port?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fletty View Post
    Today was breaking down one of my precious Australian red cedar slabs and starting to dress timber to rough size. It felt good...

    fletty
    Nice slab of wood you are working with there fletty . Working that by hand will be a big NICE

    Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by FenceFurniture View Post
    Btw, what's the OD on the saw port?
    38mm diameter

    Quote Originally Posted by KAJ View Post
    Fletty

    I notice you show a Scheppach track saw in your photo. What do you think of this saw? I have looked at getting one but have yet to take the plunge.

    Thanks in advance

    Ken
    In further support of the Sheppach, here are a few pictures taken last week when I made a 50mm thick, ‘bent’ slab of sheoak a bit easier to store AND made a fistful of handle blanks for knew Concept saw changeover kits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fletty View Post
    38mm diameter
    That means the Festool 36mm hose fitting will go over it - it is 38mm ID.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fletty View Post
    Hi Ken, “take the plunge”......... there’s a pun there somewhere ?

    Firstly, it ain’t no Festool BUT, at a third of the price, we can’t expect it to be? I usually use mine to reduce large sheets and slabs that can’t easily be manhandled on the table saw. It cuts straight and square and, as every cut face is to be dressed later anyway, the quality of the cut is more than good enough.
    It’s plusses are
    • price
    • acceptable cut quality;
    • swivelling dust exhaust outlet that DOES take the Festool dust collector snout
    • acceptable build quality
    • acceptable dust pick-up
    • each track segment is ~1400mm long which gives a good overhang/overrun on a 1200 sheet

    It’s minuses (when compared to the Festool):
    • It is noisier and more ‘clunky’
    • the adjustments are not as smooth nor precise
    • it doesn’t slide as smoothly

    It’s minuses (General);
    • the standard clamp to hold the track to the workpiece is an embarrassment to the post Industrial Revolution World! I guess that’s why they offer a better one as an accessory?

    In short, it does everything I need of it and so, given the price difference, it works well for me.
    fletty

    Thanks for the info Fletty

    Looks like that will be my next big (ish) purchase

    Ken

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    Hey Ken ... (dont want to hijack the thread Fetty)

    I have the same saw and I made a few changes that improved it greatly.

    Have a look at this ... worth the effort for sure

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    I also have the same saw. Only mod. I made was to manufacture another joiner for connecting the panels. There are now two instead of one - lot more stable. Breaks down full sheets of ply beautifully.

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    Hi Fletty
    Hare n Forbes has a sale atm and have 2 versions of the saw. $275 for 55mm cut and 1.2kw. $385 for 75mm cut and 1.6kw. I reckon I am not likely to cut more than 55mm but I never met a kw I didn't like. Is it worth and extra $110 for the extra depth and grunt ??

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by KAJ View Post
    Hi Fletty
    Hare n Forbes has a sale atm and have 2 versions of the saw. $275 for 55mm cut and 1.2kw. $385 for 75mm cut and 1.6kw. I reckon I am not likely to cut more than 55mm but I never met a kw I didn't like. Is it worth and extra $110 for the extra depth and grunt ??

    Thanks
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    Hi Ken, don’t forget that you lose about 10mm depth of cut with the track so, if you get the 55mm saw you will only have about 45 left? If you only plan on cutting sheet goods that should be OK but you won’t be able to cut a datum edge on a rough slab?
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    I’ve been browsing brochures and American woodworking magazines;
    • the cordless Festool plunge saw and track is $1247 AU (Total Tools) and..
    • the new Makita plunge saw is equipped with Bluetooth to talk to their dust collector......!
    a rock is an obsolete tool ......... until you don’t have a hammer!

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    I like that plunger saw system Alan and very affordable on special....
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