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    Are these tables finished with a clear polish or do they have a dark stain washed on first to highlight the grain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzie View Post
    Are these tables finished with a clear polish or do they have a dark stain washed on first to highlight the grain?
    Yeah there is stain sometimes and colour between the finish even and the polish is clear mostly .
    The clear polish sometimes gets colour added if I’m aiming at an exact colour a client specifys and it’s being steered towards that . This one was mostly natural with a bit of colour later in the job. It was my table for stock and I just make it look what I think is nice at the time . No pressure to get it exactly “this or that “. It’s definitely the way to get the best finish . Having to match colours is not like mixing paint with woodwork, and patina increases difficulty heaps . Being held to a colour sample by someone who doesn’t have a clue as to what is going on means they are doing themselves out of the better job . It’s a slight thing and they will probably never know what or why is happening five years later any way . Basically if you let the craftsman do his best and let him be free in his creative approach you get better than trying to steer him and control him. Which occasionally happens. But not much any more . I got a lot better at sorting that out over the years .
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    And I thought you had been slacking off and doing nothing! A few serious questions Rob, how does the final design get arrived at and do you do detailed drawings before you start? Also how long did it take end to end for the job. I had customers who were selling tables for $10,000 but this is in another league altogether.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Parks View Post
    And I thought you had been slacking off and doing nothing! A few serious questions Rob, how does the final design get arrived at and do you do detailed drawings before you start? Also how long did it take end to end for the job. I had customers who were selling tables for $10,000 but this is in another league altogether.
    Ha Thanks Chris . No slacking just busy and behind a little.

    The design is drawn up with pencil and paper to scale and emailed to client. Options and any changes worked out from there.
    Time taken ? Its around a 75 hour build and polish , spread out over a few months . Price is a little higher than your price but not by much, + 10 %.

    I draw up the design and when I get the go ahead I work out all sizes for every part and write that cutting list up on a piece of wood as big as can fit in my pocket .
    Its all double checked a couple of ways , mathematically and quickly laying it out on a stick and checking lengths.

    Then the pocket size piece of wood is what I take around the workshop to measure and cut wood with. Ive got a nice little collection of these. Nice stuff where I may want to do again, I keep. And stuff Ill never do again, I plane off when I need that mobile phone sized piece of wood again.

    I like a trail from plans to the cutting list including the Maths so I can back track and find where I made a mistake if I find one. And double or triple checking from a few ways often turns one up before I cut wood .

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    Quote Originally Posted by auscab View Post
    ...This whole table was 5/8 x 60mm long tenons...
    Love it - imperial and metric mixed. I do it too (unfortunately I don't make beautiful pieces of furniture like you do).

    I just stumbled across this thread. Thanks for sharing. It's inspirational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vann View Post
    Love it - imperial and metric mixed. I do it too (unfortunately I don't make beautiful pieces of furniture like you do).

    I just stumbled across this thread. Thanks for sharing. It's inspirational.

    Cheers, Vann.
    Thanks Vann .

    Ha Ha I didn't realize I did that. 5/8 x 60.
    I was trying to be careful and just drifted off pretty quickly.
    I'm using both at the same time all day.

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    This is simply a Masterpiece Rob. I have one question though which I keep meaning to ask, with all the beautiful pieces of work you create do you ever feel sad when they have to leave your workshop?, I mean were not talking about something that's knocked together in a few hours or days even!. Me and my sister in law who's an artist in Devon England had a conversation about the work that gets sold and how she feels sad when a piece she really likes
    has to go. I know

    I felt sad when I got divorced, not because I got divorced but because the Ex p*ssed off with all my artwork, portraits of the kids!.

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    I've got this page bookmarked because its simply too much to take in, in one reading! . Mind Blowing!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagerBeaver71 View Post
    I have one question though which I keep meaning to ask, with all the beautiful pieces of work you create do you ever feel sad when they have to leave your workshop?
    Thanks Sam.
    Not so much a sad feeling. More a bit of an empty feeling for a little while when it was something really good . The workshop has this piece that's been created over months and then all of a sudden its gone. So you get used to walking around this creation that gets better and better. People come in and then start coming back bringing friends in to see it coming together. And when its gone your back to wood and tools and machines and mess to clean up. There is always the next job to start so you pull out the drawings and forget the last piece pretty quickly.

    One good thing that happens is I see them again sometimes. I get old clients sending me pictures of pieces that they want to move on and see pieces turn up in local auction rooms, Facebook market place and one great piece I built turned up in an Op Shop.


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    Hi Rob,

    Where do you put your makers mark, just in case I see a piece on my travels?.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auscab View Post
    The boards go back together . Jointed with my no 8 .

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    Dominoed with 14mm Oak workshop made tenons which I do wide enough so a two plunge, based on the markings off the width of a carpenters pencil . I forget their finished width , between 40 and 50 mm roughly I think.

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    Rob
    Any pics of your workshop made tenoner? Looks a bit more beefier than the Festool DF 700 DOMINO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagerBeaver71 View Post
    Hi Rob,

    Where do you put your makers mark, just in case I see a piece on my travels?.
    HI Sam . I have a Paper Label I stick under each piece.
    Id prefer a stamp as it would last longer. Ive been meaning to get one for about 30 years.
    The paper ones wont last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie_6ft View Post
    Any pics of your workshop made tenoner? Looks a bit more beefier than the Festool DF 700 DOMINO.
    The tenons that I pictured are just machined to size . Buzz, thickness, leave a touch to thick, round the sides on inverted router and then thickness sand to exact thickness if need be. They are done in lengths of scrap then cut to length as I need them .

    I Thought you were asking about a workshop made tenoner I built years ago at first. I thought "Did I mention that in this thread " and went looking for the mention.
    It was a two router thing on a sled that would machine a tenon on the end of a rail for table building. It sat at the right side of my Radial arm saw. It worked but was a bit of a pain to adjust and get right before cutting. The ECA Wadkin is a luxury item compared to it .

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    Sorry I was not thinking one bit when I posted (mortice & tenon dyslexia) - I meant the morticed slots for the tenons? They are much bigger than what the Festool Domino makes.

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    They are 14mm thick which is the thickest domino cutter that the larger Domino 700 takes. And by doing multiple plunges you can make them as wide as you like. They are 50mm to 60mm wide. Two or three plunges would have made each mortise. The picture on left is two test holes in a piece of scrap.
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    I have made the M&T up to roughly 120 wide on some jobs. 12 plunges wide on this 10mm thick one.

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