Thread: Queen bed frame question

Hi Twist,
I dismantled an old bed last year that had the same type of bracket

The bed was a single that had contained my teenage son for 10 years or more

You could always go down to the bedding shops and see what they use for high grade beds ... take a pic and search the internet for the brackets.

Dont use M and T if you want to fit it into the room after making ... or ever want to shift it.

Just make sure you match the screws to the wood type ... coarse for soft woods ... finer for hardwood.

Regards

Rob

Originally Posted by Tahlee

Dont use M and T if you want to fit it into the room after making ... or ever want to shift it.

Thanks for the reply Rob, what is M and T?

Timbecon has two versions..
https://www.timbecon.com.au/site-sea...ame%20brackets

Hi Twist
Mortise and Tenon ... sorry to be so jargonised.

Rob

I used similar brackets when I made a queen bed a few years back. The head and foot ends are mortice and tenon joined to the legs but used brackets for the long side rails. Main reason is so it can come apart. Be a pain trying to move a queen bed in one piece.
Regards
John

Originally Posted by Tahlee

Dont use M and T if you want to fit it into the room after making ... or ever want to shift it.

Well, Yes; and no.

You can use mortise and tenon, but don't glue the joints and use bed bolts to secure the rails to the bed head or end. That is a traditional method. I've done this and the bed has been dismantled and moved a few times with no problem. Which is what I expected. It is a tried and true method.

I used traditional bed bolts with square bolt heads and square nuts, because that's how I roll. There is absolutely no reason why modern hardware with hex heads, nuts or cap screws that use allen keys would not work equally well.

That said, I would recommend that Twist use the proposed hardware as referenced or something like it. Making Mortise and Tenon joints with bed bolts is probably not for a new woodworker and these hardware items are well tried. There is no reason these hardware items will not long outlive all of us.

I have two commercially made queen beds that use the same type of bed bracket. One of them is around 10 years old and the other just over 5, both beds are solid. The screws that hold the bracket parts on to the wood have never been tightened. We moved in February and none of the wood attaching screws needed tightening on either bed. Disassembly and assembly are quick as well, so plus points everywhere.

It looks like Maxilock is an Oz invention: Maxilock ™ Bed Fastening System - Bed Brackets for a Sturdy Bed

Thanks all for the advice, I'm going to give the hinges a go. I'll let you know how it goes.

Yep. Those hinges are the go. Strong, quick and easy and silent. Mortice and tenon joints may squeak with all the twisting and turning, rocking and bouncing that can go on.

Those things are available under a number of brands. I've used them for the 6 or so beds I've made and they work very well and are squeak and wobble free.

We had a guy on here from one of the bed/mattress selling companies a few years ago who said he had sold several hundred beds with that system and never an issue. Seemed plausible.

Originally Posted by Twist

Does anyone have any experience with these:
https://www.bunnings.com.au/kia-ora-...acket_p3962700

I'm planning on making a simple queen size bed frame out of recycled messmate and they look like the easiest option for a wood maker noob like myself.
Any other suggestions? Don't think I'm experienced enough to do Tenon joints and I also want to be able to dismantle if the need arises.

Those are excellent... I made a Double Bed about 10 years ago and used these end brackets. Still solid - no squeaks or movement what so ever. Buy with confidence.

Finished my bed, thanks for the help.

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This looks amazing! I have just started collecting myself a bunch of recycled hardwood framing timbers etc from a demo house.. floor joists, bearers and about 60sq m of vic ash flooring.. $100! that was my favourite part.. A bed is on one of my many to do lists (pending buying more clamps, and a table saw, and a few other goodies)... my question to you is though, where does one find recycled timber, messmate or other, that is wider than 90mm, and with suck great looking gum/vein lines? and is that the natural look of the timber? Or is all the black spots epoxy'd veins? Also, FWIW I have a 4 post bed with a different bracket which is great too,ill take a pic when I can
Cheers,
Damon

*edit* my phone isn't working atm so I just googled the bracket, looks very similar to this. No screws, slots in tightly, can put my 4 post bed together in approximately 2 minutes