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22nd May 2016, 09:01 PM #16
Last weekend was time to break out the paint and prime some of the beams. Had the youngest son helping me (all 6'3" of him).
Next order of business was to prepare some fish plates. They are made of 10mm flat steel, and are now drilled with 10mm diameter holes. They have now been primed with steel primer.
And that was the end of that weekend.
Yesterday I lined up all of the rafter brackets. This is done by setting the outside brackets the required distance from the fascia ( in this case 210mm) and then setting a string line. The remaining brackets are then set to the line.
Seeings I had both sons with me again, I decided to use their youthful exuberance to help me set the first beam.
Worked out fine, so took it down for painting. Then spent the next two hours removing the quad guttering as this will be replaced by a box gutter. On these two corners alone I reckon the original plumbers must have used half a tube of silicone. We got there eventually, which gave two coats of paint on the beam time to dry. So back up it went.
Next job is chamfering the posts.
Thanks for looking ...Glenn Visca
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24th May 2016, 09:31 PM #17
Rear Verandah - WIP
14 posts chamfered .... That was a tad boring ...
There is one post not shown.
Next, a light sand and a couple of coats of paint.Glenn Visca
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25th May 2016, 06:20 PM #18Skwair2rownd
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Looking good so far Glen. Good idea to paint before assembly.
Lucky you to have such handy help!
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5th June 2016, 07:48 PM #19
Not the best weekend for working in Melbourne ... But a damn site better than Sydney or Brisbane and the rest of the east coast I expect.
In between rain showers, we managed to get all of the outside beams up and propped, and two corner posts cut in.
Checked measurements ... 4mm out on the 9.3 metre side, and 1mm out on the 5.1 metre side.
Checked square (measuring corner to corner) and managed to be within 1/4 inch ! Happy days !
Bolted on the two corner posts and called it quits for the weekend.
Still amazed at 86 year old Dad ... Happily walking along a 10ft plank 5 feet off the ground - no issue at all !
Thanks for looking ...
Glenn Visca
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5th June 2016, 10:13 PM #20GOLD MEMBER
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3 generations working together ?
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5th June 2016, 10:50 PM #21
Rear Verandah - WIP
The other bloke in the photos is a mate ... Both sons were on the tools yesterday though. They just didn't make it into any photos today because they had other commitments. So yes JOT .. We did have 3 generations on the job.
Glenn Visca
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13th June 2016, 09:31 PM #22
Rear Verandah - WIP
Some solid progress this weekend. Saturday's weather was a little dodgy, but that have time to prepare some truss boots to carry the intermediate beams that run side to side across the verandah. I wasn't overly happy with regular joist hangers to hold these beams and prevent the structure pushing apart under the weight of the roof. Regular joist hangers have a bolt hole that would be 10mm from the cut edge of the beams, so in the traditional over engineering method, I decided something a little more substantial was required. During the week I managed to find some truss boots that extend 130mm back along the beam giving plenty of timber to hold a bolt. While the weather was crappy I gave them a quick coat of metal primer.
While they were drying I fixed the two posts that had been positioned last weekend
I then clambered atop the planks to mark out all the rafter positions on the beams, and with that done, truss boots were fixed to the outside beams and intermediate beams were put into place.
Sunday saw better weather, and more posts installed. With the bolt on stirrups, it's a bit of a process (well at least the way I did it anyway).
So far I am quite happy with the "stance" and balance.
Today's weather was sensational, so the first couple of hours was spent putting the final touches on the intermediate beams.
With that complete, I started the process of building the ridge beam. It's made of 2 pieces of 190x45 with a 150x600 10mm steel fish plate either side. I built it on the ground first, and we then disassembled to get it up onto the structure.
Some special props were then manufactured to carry the beam and these were clamped into place. We lifted the beam into the props and farted around for a while getting everything jiggled into the correct position to get the bolts in place. The base of that beam is 3.8 metres off the ground !
And ... All too quickly the weekend came to an end !
Thanks for looking.Glenn Visca
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22nd June 2016, 11:54 PM #23
More solid progress last weekend (although this post is a little late).
First off .. Some extension legs were added to the trestles. These were my grandfathers .. used after the war to install canvas blinds on homes around Melbourne. With the legs installed the the top rung is around 10' off the ground.
Anyways, Saturday was spent installing rafters at each end and one in the middle. No rush on these as I need to ensure everything is nice and square and plumb in readiness for the roofing system. All seemed to work out nicely leaving Sunday to install the rest.
So here is the conclusion of the weekend's labours.
Thanks for looking !Glenn Visca
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23rd June 2016, 11:18 AM #24
Nice work.
There ain't no devil, it's just god when he's drunk!!
Tom Waits
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23rd June 2016, 09:13 PM #25Skwair2rownd
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That really does look the goods Glen. Worth all the effort you have taken!
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23rd June 2016, 09:53 PM #26
Thanks Gents !
Glenn Visca
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26th June 2016, 08:26 PM #27
Another good effort this weekend in Melbourne's freezing temperatures.
Collar ties installed. A few brackets and Nail plates fixed up. Corrected a bit of a bulge in a beam (evidently I was a little heavy handed when installing a rafter or 2 last weekend). End props made and set in place.
Was hoping to have the end rafters/barge boards made, but our cold temperatures meant the paint hadn't dried yet. So instead we set about making some braces from the end beams back up to ridge board to stiffen the structure. By 3pm today the sun had gone and an icy wind had sprung up - so I called down tools.
Thanks for looking !
Glenn Visca
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8th August 2016, 01:36 AM #28
Been a few weeks since the last update, so here is today's instalment.
Outside rafter sets have been cut and installed, along with all posts.
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Unpainted roof members were given a lick of paint, and supports for the new box gutter between the house and verandah were made and installed.
Plumbers in last week to install gutters and connect to storm water.
Ridge capping positioned atop the ridge beam.
And today we started putting the roof on, successfully completing the side adjacent to the house.
The roof is a standing seam system whereby an aluminium base profile is installed I top of each rafter. The polycarbonate sheet is positioned and locked in place by a second aluminium locking piece screwed to the base profile, and then a 3rd capping piece snapped in place on the second piece of profile to hide the screws.
Not the easiest thing to install on a pitched roof, but we are getting there and I amquite satisfied so far.
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Until next time ...Glenn Visca
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9th August 2016, 12:00 AM #29GOLD MEMBER
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Hi GV
Where did you get your standing seam system?
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9th August 2016, 12:12 AM #30
Hey JOT ... Sunglaze is the product, by a company called Palram. Be advised though .. It's not cheap !
Glenn Visca
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