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6th April 2011, 09:51 PM #1Member
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Moving a Hercus 260 - help please
Hi all,
I have the opportunity to acquire a Hercus 260, fairly complete with a cabinet. At the moment all I have to move it with is a box trailer. At the moment the lathe is inside a workshop. I can get the trailer close, but it will be down 4 or 5 stairs from where the lathe is. I'm planning on dismantling as much as possible, within reason, to help with moving. I should be able to arrange several people to help and I can hire an engine crane.
- Am I right in assuming a normal box trailer can handle this?
- Any idea what the main components weigh?
- How difficult is removing the headstock?
- Any major pitfalls I should look out for?
I know this has all been done before, and I bet someone has posted relevant information somewhere on the web. Can anyone point me to a useful web page or thread?
Any advice would be much appreciated,
Thanks.
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6th April 2011, 10:38 PM #2GOLD MEMBER
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I'll help you mate, as long as you're moving it to my place!
Sorry, couldn't resist.
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6th April 2011, 11:34 PM #3Product designer retired
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AH,
A box trailer won't handle the load, my truck will.
The overall weight is 20 tonnes.
It is impossible to remove the headstock without dynamite.
Major pitfall is wrong delivery address, needs to go to Heidelberg.
Congratulations on your acquisition, pass me another tissue.
Ken
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7th April 2011, 03:36 AM #4GOLD MEMBER
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The box trailer is fine.
Weight is around 200/250kg.
If the Lathe is above the stairs I would suggest that you slide the Lathe down the stairs.
2 people at the front should be sufficent to keep the Lathe under control.
If it is a concern you could either use a chain block around the cabinet or a rope around it to control the Lathe.
If the steps are a concern you could place a sheet of ply or similar to allow the Lathe to move down them more easily.
Once you have the Lathe at the bottom of the steps place either a soft sling or ropes between the gussets in the bed of the Lathe,I think from memory from the one nearest the headstock to the third one along,then use your engine hoist to raise the Lathe,use the carriage to transfer the weight to try and get an even as possable lift,remember to lock the carriage in position before doing the final lift.
Also removed the Tailstock and any other parts that may vibrate loose or dislodge them selves during transport.
Once you have the Lathe at least 1/2 way onto your trailer it will be very easy to move on the trailer floor.
You may even find if you have all those people to help you,once you get the Lathe to the bottom of the steps you will be able to man handle it into the trailer without having to use the hoist.
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7th April 2011, 08:03 AM #5Member
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Thanks for the tips. So is there much benefit in removing the headstock, motor etc or is this just creating more work?
Am I right in thinking that because the headstock sits on vee ways, it is self-aligning?
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7th April 2011, 11:10 AM #6GOLD MEMBER
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If you have the assistance to move the machine there is no benifit in dissmantling it for transport.
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7th April 2011, 11:52 AM #7GOLD MEMBER
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Bob the answer was in relation to the question asked by the original poster.
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7th April 2011, 07:45 PM #8Member
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Well I've had a bit of a look at the machine this morning. It seems like a very simple version of the 260, no quick change box and just a single lead screw behind the apron. I unbolted the bed from the cabinet and disconnected the wiring, to let me lift the lathe off. I think I'll go and buy an engine crane rather than hire one, since I'll probably need to move this around once it's home. I really hope I can move the lathe in one piece, since at first glance it doesn't look like a breeze to remove the headstock.
The place I'm getting this from has a heap of machinery, with accessories and parts all stored in a disorganised mess. What should I be looking for in terms of accessories and tooling? Change gears, chucks, tool holders are the obvious things, but what else is likely to be around?
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7th April 2011, 07:51 PM #9future machinist
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if you can i would try get steadies
BETTER TO HAVE TOOLS YOU DON'T NEED THAN TO NEED TOOLS YOU DON'T HAVE
Andre
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7th April 2011, 07:53 PM #10GOLD MEMBER
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First question would be, do you know what the items that fit the 260 look like?
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7th April 2011, 07:54 PM #11.
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If you are interested, I could scan a copy of the Hercus 260 attachments brochure and post it here. It may prove useful in your hunt. But..if you are not interested, I won't. Let me know.
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7th April 2011, 08:26 PM #12Member
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I'm familiar with some of the bits and pieces, having spent a fair bit of time around these machines in high schools. Steadies are an obvious one that I hadn't thought of, thanks.
Knowing what the bits look like might be a challenge, though I'm hoping that the Hercus green will help.
Bob, that would be most helpful. I'd very much appreciate seeing that brochure.
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8th April 2011, 12:06 AM #13GOLD MEMBER
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Bob,
I'd like the brochure too please, as I'm in the market for a 260.
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Aero, Jack and others,
Happy hunting!
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Thanks Bob
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