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30th May 2017, 05:16 PM #1
Hand held Fret saw
Being watching David Barron hand cut dove tails using a Knew Concepts Jewellers hand held fret saw. They are an expensive item (Knew Concepts) above my current budget and so I'm wondering any other recommendations from fret saw users?
CheersKerry Larkan
Melbourne Australia
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31st May 2017, 01:31 PM #2
these have a good reputation Coping Saw - Lee Valley Tools
not sure where you can get them in Australiaregards from Alberta, Canada
ian
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31st May 2017, 02:27 PM #3
Thanks Ian. Cost of shipping is a bugger but I've found one at a Lee Valley type dealer here in Melbourne.
I really like the fret saw they have on the lee valley site too.
CheersKerry Larkan
Melbourne Australia
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31st May 2017, 05:19 PM #4
Hi Kerry
I cannot recommend the fretsaw you link to. It is super light, which is its aim, but it is also flexible and more difficult to control (unless you are very experienced with fretsaws).
I am assuming that you want a fretsaw for removing the waste from dovetails - yes? The ultimate fretsaw for this needs to have two features: firstly, be light and stiff (which adds to control) and secondly, it needs to be capable of sawing any distance (since a panel may extend 600mm in width). The latter precludes the fixed angle fretsaws, unless you bend the blade (like Rob Cosman does). Personally, I do not like bending blades as it is difficult to get an accurate 45 degrees.
So this is sounding more like a coping saw, which does turn. And it is possible to get thinner blades that will slide down a kerf, if you prefer that method. More typically, coping saws are used to cut away waste in two strokes, like this ..
My preference, however, is for a fretsaw, since a fine blade can be used - very accurately - to remove the waste in one cut ..
Yes, this is a Knew Concepts fretsaw, but the important part is that it is cutting at 45 degrees (which offers an infinite length of cutting) and is tight to the line ...
Link: http://www.inthewoodshop.com/Furnitu...ovetails3.html
The question is how to reduce the costs of one of these saws so that you buy once only? The answer is that you do not need the fancy versions. The basic aluminium one is just fine. And get the 3" version - that will offer greater stiffness and still provide all the depth of cut you want as the blade is tilted to 45 degrees.
The secret to using a fretsaw becomes evident as you become more experienced in using one: as when using a dovetail saw, the fretsaw must be held as lightly as possible. Never force the cut. Let the saw do the work. The blade should hardly deflect.
Below is a review I wrote of the original Knew Concepts fretsaw. It may offer you some insights.
http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ToolRev...tsFretsaw.html
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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31st May 2017, 08:55 PM #5
Derek many thanks for your comprehensive explanation. Do you have a recommended retailer for a saw here in Australia? I'll check the saw you recommend on the Knew Concepts site and see what that runs out at. Thank you for your generosity of spirit.
Cheers Kerry
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31st May 2017, 09:18 PM #6
Hi Kerry
KC were sold by Henry Eckert, who were sold and part became Lie Nielsen Australia. This this link: https://www.lie-nielsen.com.au/index...ory&path=35_41
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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1st June 2017, 06:20 PM #7
Hi Derek,
I have one of these but I've never found it to be that useful but I suspect the problem is the blades I've had. What blades are you using?
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1st June 2017, 07:39 PM #8
Hi Mark
The blades I use are Pégas #7 Skip Tooth.
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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