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    Default Are you happy with your scroll saw

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    I have been reading some of the post regarding the Excalibur EX-21 scroll saw, there seems to be some disappointed people out there with them. What I was wondering are there many people that are happy with the EX-21 and are the new models OK.
    I know very little about the scroll saws.
    Mine is Delta 16 inch I am about to do a few projects with it, and I may buy a EX21 if my enthusiasm holds up and my projects turn out ok I use the saw at the moment for making toys and models which I might add my work rate is pretty slow. A bit like Michael Angelo and the Sistine Chappell…… well not quite but you get the idea
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    I'm still using my Deltas ( yes... two! lol) and am still happy with them, but have looked into the other available saws simply because we can't get the Delta here anymore.

    More and more people are buying carbatec's Hegner look alike and are very happy with the performance...... after adding genuine Hegner clamps ( available from Helen Harris).

    I only know two people who are using the Excalibur..... they are big and heavy.. not a machine you want to carry around... of coruse that also does make them great for bigger projects. Like most saws tho... seems you need to fiddle a bit to get it to work the way you want to. If you send me your e-mail addy I'll get you in touch with one of the guys who uses one. He will gladly talk you through the ups and downs of it.

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    Hi Juvy have emailed you my email address could you tell me about the Hegner clamps please

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    Our Hastings Woodworkers Guild has several Delta's and one Excalibur.
    The Deltas all get plenty of use as the members like the blade quick change facility on them.
    The Excalibur also has has a quick change lever but it also has the upper and lower parallelogram lifts for the blade that keep the blade perfectly straight - (at 90 degrees) to the table.
    Without these, all our other scrollsaws have a blade that goes up and down through an arc, and not vertically like the Excalibur.
    I would be interested to find out if any other brands have a similar cutting action to the Excalibur - Carba Tec's (?) for example or any others.
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    Yes, Colin..... I know.... answered while still having first cup of coffee... brain didn't work well...... sorry....
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    I know the feeling..... Im having my first cuppa also .. colbra

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scribbly Gum View Post
    Our Hastings Woodworkers Guild has several Delta's and one Excalibur.
    The Deltas all get plenty of use as the members like the blade quick change facility on them.
    The Excalibur also has has a quick change lever but it also has the upper and lower parallelogram lifts for the blade that keep the blade perfectly straight - (at 90 degrees) to the table.
    Without these, all our other scrollsaws have a blade that goes up and down through an arc, and not vertically like the Excalibur.
    I would be interested to find out if any other brands have a similar cutting action to the Excalibur - Carba Tec's (?) for example or any others.
    Cheers
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    Thanks for the comments SG on the Excalibur! are you aware of any inherent problems with the machines I have read all the other threads of the forum and that left me a little confused with what the machine was really like
    Colbra

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    Quote Originally Posted by colbra View Post
    Thanks for the comments SG on the Excalibur! are you aware of any inherent problems with the machines I have read all the other threads of the forum and that left me a little confused with what the machine was really like
    Colbra
    We haven't had any problems with ours, and it gets plenty of use.
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    Colin here is the hegner clamps.

    You only need the knurled knob the clamp part is excess.
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    Thanks SG & Jim for your replys have taken onboard, this will help me make a balanced decision with the EX21. have Great Christmas
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    I am not making any comment just look at my posts I don,t want to get into any long drawn out conversation about it i will say I am happy with the saw now I have replaced some of the parts with steel and some of the bearings I think that contradicts my first sentence

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    Hi Patch I feel I have known you for a while a couple of days anyway…. For it was your comments that started this thread I am pleased you have put in a post and I am glad you have fixed the short falls with your EX 21
    I have had a lot of input from quite a few scrollers, if you have been following my posts you would have seen what I am about and the track I am thinking of going down.

    What I would like is to do is stay in touch with you, and if I was to buy this scroll saw I may be able to get some advice off you.
    I had a look at your toys and that is my thing also you have made some grand toys, do you make them for your family or is it a bit of a sideline I don’t wish to intrude so just ignore this line if you like.
    I have two grandsons and that is my motivation, along with some charity work that I really enjoy at this time of year.

    Col colbra

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    Try the Carba Tec 18 you will not be disappointed. They are a great saw

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    Hi Barry thanks for you input
    I will be going down to Sydney after christmas will call in at Carba Tec and check the scroll saws . I will keep your recommendation in mind when looking .
    Have a great Christmas Col

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    Hi Colbra,
    I still have vibration issues with my EX21...there is no way I'd be game enough to run it at high speed...I had it back to Carba Tec and we compared it to a brand new one straight out of the box. Annoyingly mine didn't appear to be much worse than the new one. I custom built a new bench just for the saw and then bolted it down. I sit a small fan on top of a 4 litre can of auto paint to help blow the dust away...on high speed the fan will fall off the can and the can and other bits and pieces walk around all over the bench! I was in touch with Ray at Seyco in the states who is an EX21 guru, but he says it's not the saw that's the problem but my bench and shed that is. (My first bench was bolted to the steel frame of the shed...the noise was terrible as it made the colorbond cladding etc vibrate terribly..} In his opinion the saw should not need bolting down...but even when I tried my saw on the floor..(125mm reinforced concrete..), it would happily wander about all over the place.
    The vibration is very disappointing...but so far the rest of the machine seems ok. I might add that I only clock up about 4 or 5 hours a week on it, using mainly 4.5mm MDF.

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