Thread: Am I expecting too much from TiteBond III in sub 10° temps overnight?

although the conditions aren't really ideal for gluing things together. i wouldn't expect an epic failure the following morning.

Was the two mating surfaces to be glued a nice neat joint?
Was the treated pine freshly machined immediately before gluing? a lot of oils seem to rise to the surface on treated pine which will have a bad effect on the glues capability to work.

Titebond list the minimum temperature to Titebond III as 8*C so when you say sub 10 how low did it go.

I could swear I read the forecast yesterday for a 5° low overnight.


https://www.masters.com.au/product/9...ood-glue-237ml

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45°F = 7.2°C

Yes. OK.
I completely mucked that up.

Too much in a hurry.
Need to leave tightly clamped and thickly layered glued joins to dry properly for 24 hours.

also "store at room temperature" generally means store at about 25°C (or 75°F). If it's been in the shed at less than 10 you'll probably have to give it a warm bath before use

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OK Lesson learned.
Glued, clamped and screwed.

Frak! I hate this cold weather!
Frakin' 8° in me shed.

Originally Posted by ian

also "store at room temperature" generally means store at about 25°C (or 75°F). If it's been in the shed at less than 10 you'll probably have to give it a warm bath before use

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"room temperature
noun
a comfortable ambient temperature, generally taken as about 20°C."
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"The adjective ambient means "relating to the immediate surroundings."
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ForGetAboutIt!

Anyone have any ideas on super cheap heating for the shed?

Me whole body be hurtin'!

Concrete floor and brick walls suck all the warmth out of the air and out of me body.

Isn't there a cheap lazer Thermometer I can measure the timber and the bottle of glue with?

hmmmmm:
40 580 Celsius Infrared IR Thermometer Temperature Laser GUN Meter BAG 180B | eBay

Suck it up! Its 1° now with a -2 night.

Perfect for woodworking... like chopping firewood with a big axe!

If it gets below 10 (which it does all the time in canberra) my experience is that TB will not set. Its happened a few times where a panel has been made up later at night and in the morning its soggy. If so, it's just taken out into the sun for a bit and it quickly does its thing. I seriously doubt the glue strength is going to be the same however.

The tool you are looking for to make shed warmer is called a "heater"

LOL!

Heater is way too expensive.
I wonder if a plant grow lights pointed properly would suffice and be cheaper than a room heater.
Especially if the room isn't anywhere near sealed.

an electric heater that hangs from the ceiling?


Ok, I'm out!

Will have to work inside on other projects until it gets warmer.

What a shame as I was really getting into projects.

Originally Posted by barrysumpter

Anyone have any ideas on super cheap heating for the shed?

Concrete floor and brick walls suck all the warmth out of the air and out of me body.

Originally Posted by barrysumpter

Heater is way too expensive.
I wonder if a glow lights pointed properly would suffice and be cheaper than a room heater.
Especially if the room isn't anywhere near sealed.

an electric heater that hangs from the ceiling?

Essentially you need to heat the shed's concrete floor and brick walls to something above their winter equilibrium temperature.
I think the cheapest way to to do this, in terms of running costs, might be to use a solar powered swimming pool heater.

You would need to chase the brick walls and floor to take the heating pipes -- which will likely need to be copper.
Once the walls and floor get to something like 15 degrees, keeping that temperature should be relatively easy.

An alternative would be to chase the elements of an electric [bathroom] floor heater into the walls and floor and hook it up to a solar panel.

Get a wood fire for your off cuts.

Originally Posted by Bohdan

Get a wood fire for your off cuts.

Offcuts? What are these offcuts?

Originally Posted by FenceFurniture

Offcuts? What are these offcuts?

hi Brett

not everyone uses "off cuts" to construct a dock outside their shed

Originally Posted by FenceFurniture

Offcuts? What are these offcuts?

Off cuts are what you make to keep warm.

Don't know why but really like this first one:
Cheap and Easy Solar Heater

Solar Heater

Solar heater with reclaimed materials

Regrettably the single car garage shed is located on the South-West side.
So just barely gets mid day to late after-noon winter sun.