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Thread: Aquadhere v Titebond
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25th January 2017, 02:05 PM #16
titebond 3 varies on ebay from $45 to about $60. Carbatec want $52. less than a year ago I got TBIII from C/t for $40. they all want to charge delivery.
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30th January 2017, 04:56 PM #17Senior Member
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So, I had a bit of a look at the technical data sheets for theTitebond and Selleys products.
The first thing that stands out is the lack of definitiveinformation about the Selleys products. After some searching I found this that confirms Aquadhere exterior is aD3 adhesive (AS tested against DIN EN 204) . This was from the Selleys Q&A site.
Titebond on the other hand tests to ANSI/HPVA standard. They are quite different in the way theytest, but there appears to be some correlation.So, it seems that
Aquadhere Exterior = D3 (Approx ANSI type II)
Titebond III = ANSI Type I (close to D4 in the EN 204ratings)
Titebond II = ANSI Type II (Approximately D3 in the EN 204rating system).
In summary, when it comes to water resistance testing:
Titebond III >Titebond II = Aquadhere exterior
Cheers,
Peter
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30th January 2017, 05:23 PM #19Member
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Thanks Peter for taking the time to research. I am going to go with Aquadhere Exterior as water resistance is not critical for me but strength is.
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Chris
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I do not know if they still make it and supply it but some time ago I bought some "Aquadhere external" that was a polyurethane not a PVA. It was also a very highly foaming polyurethane, which led to some imperfect joins in my work. So, just in case it is still out there be aware that I have been told the the polyurethane glues are poisonous to touch (while wet) and can foam like mad.
As ian said above, the open time and other characteristics of the adhesive are most likely the most significant. For PVA I use Titebond original when I want a fast grab and fast setting PVA adhesive. I use Titebond III when I want waterproof joints - platters, coasters etc. My Titebond bottles seem to last at least two years here in hot and sticky Brisbane.
It is important to choose the appropriate adhesive for what you are doing, so don't feel the need to just stick to PVA and its derivatives. The best polyurethane I have found (mostly for laminating my own veneered panels) is Purbond from Bote-Cote because it is less-foam-forming. Epox-E-Glue epoxy from the same manufacturer is a great gap-filling paste that can be coloured with spirit stains or dry powders to match your woodwork. it is also very strong.
I know woodturners who use some fancy fast-setting 'Superglues" (cyanoacrylate) with an accelerator for even faster glue-ups and I notice in the US magazines they are now promoting a similar glue for general woodworking.
Experimentation will help you find what is ideal for you.
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