Thread: What is Epox-E-glue?

Hi jmk89, you can get the safety sheet here http://www.boatcraft.com.au/PEG_safety.html#sec1

Their contact details on the site - a quick phone call to them should get you all the answers you need.

Jeremy,

Sorry, I didn't pick up your post in the other thread! I can't add much more than flooby, but the MSDS for both products says that it's the same resin, and while that may be the case chemically, it's not the same in use.

BoteCote is a 2:1 mix and the various filler powders are suspended in it.

Epox E Glue is a 1:1 mix already gooey.

I too suggest that you phone the manufacturer (they are good guys to deal with) in Bris, and ask. Then you can tell us!

Cheers,

P

Sure - will do. I was just wondering whether using Bote Cote with filler would be the same as Epox-E-glue so I could buy Bote Cote and fillers(which I will be doing anyway) and use it for ordinary woodwork.

Originally Posted by jmk89

Sure - will do. I was just wondering whether using Bote Cote with filler would be the same as Epox-E-glue so I could buy Bote Cote and fillers(which I will be doing anyway) and use it for ordinary woodwork.

No worries, yes you can use it for ordinary woodwork although you may not find it as convenient. Using the one with filler does have the advantage that you can thicken the glue to whatever consistency you desire, anything from really runny to "lump of clay" which can be handy.

I actually use a couple of syringes to measure small quantities accurately, so I don't have any issues with using it that way.

cheers,

P

Howdy,

My understanding is that 1 to 1 resin ratios are quite hard to acheive and require some serious compromises in the strength of the cured epoxy.

So if using epoxy for a strength critical application (boat, aircraft etc) stick to the 2 to 1 ratio standard resin and add the powder modifiers. This is the most flexible use as it is easy to adapt the mix to the timber being glued.

eg Glueing a scarf and adapting for the absorbancy of the end grain.

Make the epoxy/powder mix a little bit more runny - or even better mix up resin and hardener, brush on end grain, then add the thickening powder to the rest of the epoxy in the pot to make the gluing mix and apply to the surfaces of the scarf - then clamp.

With a pregelled 1 to 1 mix it just ain't possible.

But the 1 to 1 makes a lot of sense for furniture and other non critical applications as it is so convenient - it's gap filling and stronger than just about any other woodwork glue.

MIK

Been hitting the ship's rum Mik - seeing everything double

Richard

Here are the replies from Boatcraft Pacific:
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...t=35714&page=2
I think that they are saying - useEpox-E-glue for woodwork and Bote Cote with fillers for boats. But they would say that wouldn't they? (apologoes to Christine Keeler)

Perhaps they clammed up when they saw that my emial came from my work address (I work as a commercial lawyer) - maybe they thought there was a catch in it....

Oh well..

Cheers

Jeremy

I used to be one of their agents - that's what they have always said!

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But the point is that the standard 2 to 1 resin/hardener systems plus fillers are much, much stronger and more adaptable in use than the 1 to 1 pregelled systems.

So with boats - stick with the former - boats are actually under REAL load so have to actually be strong.

Furniture is designed to feel STIFF - not deflect in use. But it is really WEAK. Give me a piece of furniture and I can pull it apart with my bare hands - NO PROBS - rip legs and backs off chairs - no worries, pull corners of sofas apart - woooohooooo.

But try the same on any component of a boat - not a chance.

So the glue has to be up to spec.

By all means use either the 1:1 pregelled glues or the full "mix yourself" epoxy systems for furniture - both are strong enough for that use.

But ONLY use the full resin systems on boats.

Originally Posted by Boatmik

Furniture is designed to feel STIFF - not deflect in use. But it is really WEAK. Give me a piece of furniture and I can pull it apart with my bare hands - NO PROBS - rip legs and backs off chairs - no worries, pull corners of sofas apart - woooohooooo.

But try the same on any component of a boat - not a chance.

And you expect me to let you near MY BOATS :eek:

Richard

The difference is just how much money do you want to spend the epox-e-glue is premixed and more expensive and if you want the cheaper version then you use the epoxy and add gluiing and filleting powder to turn it into a glue, much more sensible option.