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    Hi All,

    I should point out that this is my first box.

    I have decided to make a dispenser for dental floss. I find the plastic ones very crappy and the ends of the plastic spools inside always break. I have made a design (see attachment). I intend the box to have one removable end and for the top (with the 60 deg angles) to slide into place from the open end. It will all be held together by the post (yet to be sourced) that the spool of floss will be mounted on.

    Concerns I have are:

    1. Finding a way to make sure that the post "bolt" can't exert excessive pressure on the box and rupture the sides. I have shown it with a hex key but it wold be nice if the user didn't need a tool. Can anyone suggest a nifty piece of hardware?

    2. Glueing up. The sides have ended up about 3mm thick. I have made mitred the sides to my satisfaction. I had thought that the rebated ends would provide support for the sides while glueing up. I now realise that this is going to be very fiddly to get right. I don't want adhesive on the top piece and the surface of the mitres is very small. I was thinking I might have to make a filler for the inside to support the sides but I might end up gluing that into place and then I would be stuffed.

    3. Any ideas about how to cut the recesses in the sides to accomodate the sliding top panel?

    4. I want to cut a very thin slot on the top panel (not in the drawing) to let the stuff out. I was thinking 1.5mm. I can't think how to cut it through neatly without getting it laser cut. This might be expensive.

    Steve

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    You can cut the slider tracks and the sides of the sliding panel using a dovetail bit in a router. I'd cut the slot with a scroll saw if you have one. Otherwise, saw it down the middle, take out a small amount on each slide for the slot using a router in a table, then rejoin.
    Can't help with the hardware, but try this with the glue up. It helps if you have 2 pairs of hands:
    Finish the inside bits where you don't want glue, and put wax wherever there is likely to be squeeze out. Don't get wax where you will be putting glue. Put wax in the dovetail slide track on the sides. Also, put wax or sellotape on the end and sliding edges of the panel. This will stop the lid sticking when you glue up.
    Lie the sides and bottom inside-down on a flat surface, and stretch masking tape across the joins.
    Flip the sides over, and put a line of glue in the mitres. Also, put glue where you want it for the bottom.
    Fold the sides up, and put the panel, top and bottom in position. Tape the lot up with masking tape.
    After the glue has dried, remove the panel (you may need to tap the box on the bench), clean out any squeeze out and white spirits (if you've used shellac) or metho.

    Hope this is clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexS View Post
    You can cut the slider tracks and the sides of the sliding panel using a dovetail bit in a router. I'd cut the slot with a scroll saw if you have one. Otherwise, saw it down the middle, take out a small amount on each slide for the slot using a router in a table, then rejoin.
    Can't help with the hardware, but try this with the glue up. It helps if you have 2 pairs of hands:
    Finish the inside bits where you don't want glue, and put wax wherever there is likely to be squeeze out. Don't get wax where you will be putting glue. Put wax in the dovetail slide track on the sides. Also, put wax or sellotape on the end and sliding edges of the panel. This will stop the lid sticking when you glue up.
    Lie the sides and bottom inside-down on a flat surface, and stretch masking tape across the joins.
    Flip the sides over, and put a line of glue in the mitres. Also, put glue where you want it for the bottom.
    Fold the sides up, and put the panel, top and bottom in position. Tape the lot up with masking tape.
    After the glue has dried, remove the panel (you may need to tap the box on the bench), clean out any squeeze out and white spirits (if you've used shellac) or metho.

    Hope this is clear.
    Yes thanks Alex. It is clear. I have seen that taping method in books but I was a bit uncertain about how it would all hold up. I will need the extra hands I think.

    Steve

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