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23rd June 2017, 11:12 AM #1Senior Member
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HELP???? What kind of glue
I have built a "Blanket/Hope Chest" using Jarrah for the frame work and LAMINATE flooring for the sides, top and base. The contrast in colour is really nice but I need to fix a "Figure" to the Laminate.
The figure is carved from jarrah and can be screwed from the inside but it needs to be glued as well.
I cannot find a GLUE that ill hold onto the laminate??????
Thanks for your help.
Bob
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23rd June 2017, 01:02 PM #2SENIOR MEMBER
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What have you tried?
Scuffing up the surface and using wood glue should be strong enough, but if that doesn't work try super glue or epoxy.
If the figure is large enough or potentially be used as a handle might be a good idea to use some kind of mechanical joint eg using dowels
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23rd June 2017, 04:33 PM #3
agree, re how big is the "figure"
my first thoughts are liquid contact adhesive -- AKA rubber cementregards from Alberta, Canada
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23rd June 2017, 08:07 PM #4Senior Member
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Thanks for the feedback.
The figure is 310mm tall and 300mm wide. I have tried super glue, epoxy and Titebond 3. At the moment I am trying "Goop" a type of contact cement.
I can screw through from the inside, but not into the thin arms, they will be very vulnerable without some sort of fixing.
I haven't tried scoring the laminate because if it flakes off I will be in big trouble.
Thanks again,
Bob
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24th June 2017, 03:27 AM #5
the laminate flooring is almost certainly coated with a finish designed to easily release whatever might try and stick to it.
What I suggest is that you sand (using 100 or 120 grit) as much of the area which will be covered by the applique as you can. The idea is to provide a tooth to which the adhesive can bond. If you are careful you will be able to sand / abrade the areas where the arms need to go.
Whilst I suggested contact adhesive above, not all contact adhesives are equal. Some are much better than others when it comes to grip.
If using epoxy, you will need to thicken it with wood dust or other suitable filler -- and use something other than 5 minute araldite. I'm not sure what is available to you locally, but in your situation I would be using an thickened epoxy with a 15 minute working time and positioning the blanket box so that the surface I was working on is horizontal.
(FYI, my current epoxy of choice is System Three General Purpose with either the Fast (15 minutes working time at 25°C) or Medium (30 minutes working time) hardener.regards from Alberta, Canada
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Construction adhesive = "Liquid Nails." And I hope you never want to take it apart.
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Just a thought but maybe drilling a dowel into the back of the eagle, using the depth set seriously low say 5-6mm, of course that depends on thickness of the eagle. Then glue in the dowels. drill corresponding holes in the laminate, similarly to the same depth, then cut the dowels to length so that the eagle sits hard up against the laminate. if you glue in the dowel stubs they will be sufficient to hold the eagle on the laminate. I'd say 3 or 4 ought to be plenty. save having to muck around with finding anything that will stick to the laminate or having unsightly screws from the other side.
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Thank you Guys for the feedback. The "Goop" didn't work.
The inside is going to be lined so that covers the problem of screw heads.
I will try the liquid nails and the epoxy.
Bob.
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I had to finish a staircase, both rises and runs, with vinyl cushion flooring to match the upper and lower landings.
No room for nails, etc. Construction adhesive and a dead-blow hammer. Done in no time.
Probably 6+ years later and nothing is moving at all.
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25th June 2017, 02:21 PM #10Senior Member
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[QUOTE=Robson Valley;2031831]I had to finish a staircase, both rises and runs, with vinyl cushion flooring to match the upper and lower landings.
No room for nails, etc. Construction adhesive and a dead
Did you glue the shiny side or the back.
I need to glue the shiny side.
Thanks for your reply
Bob
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Trying to remember. The back side, the underside had a satin finish, I think. A buffing with 220 grit sandpaper should give more than enough "tooth" for adhesives.
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Got the job done eventually, scuffed the laminate surface with the dremel and then applied Liquid Nails. Will screw through from the inside just to make sure.
Thank you for your help.
Bob
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