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13th January 2016, 02:38 PM #1
it arrived today
Reading in this forum I came across references to musclechuck and eliminator (?) and so I went on a search ...
neither of those two seems to have a model that goes on a Hitachi TR12 out of the box - I seem to have the impression that Hitachi changed the chucks for the M models, and then I found, on Amazon, the Xtreme Xtender.
The nice thing about it is, you just plug it into your old 1/2" chuck and away you go. No compatibility issues (and I'm thinking about buying another router so compatibility
really WOULD have been an issue with the aforementioned.
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Things didn't go quite as smoothly as one might have hoped for. I stuck it into the router table mounted TR12, plugged in the rather long 1/2" bit you can see lying on the table and turned it on. Got a hell of a fright, because it was making very unsavoury noises. Not to mention that the insert and the spanners on the router table started to dance the jitterbug. I hit that off switch ever so fast.
I spent some time cleaning out the collet and oiling it (as per troubleshooting instructions) and then did what I saw people say about fine tuning musclechucks -- rotate the insert a little bit, retighten, rotate a little, retighten ... it took me maybe 30, maybe 45 minutes but I got the vibration down to the same level as the vanilla router with nothing in the chuck at all. Pretty happy with that result. Since I hopefully won't be taking it out for a while (It's definitely not recommended in free-handed mode by the makers -- they also discourage you from using it without a speed control) this should see me right for a while.
Meanwhile I'm still looking for a second hand machine with a speed control .... eventually one's going to come up. Or maybe I'll win the lotto or finally sell the farm
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13th January 2016, 04:14 PM #2GOLD MEMBER
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I am very glad that you mentioned that issue as I have recently purchased a second-hand Triton router that came with an Xtreme Xtension fitted. Hopefully the previous owner will have already done the fine tuning, but if it vibrates on me I will now know what to do. I have a Musclechuck on another router (OF2200) but had no balance issues with it at all. The instructions with the Musclechuck warned that it might need to be fine tuned but I guess I was lucky with that one.
I think that you will be pleased with the ease of changing bits with the allen-key tighten/loosen mechanism. I find it excellent with the Musclechuck. A word (or few) of caution, for the Musclechuck at least so probably with the XX I would guess, is that if you are using a reduction collet you need to carefully line up the slit in the collet reducer with the slit in the collet AND make sure that you tighten very firmly. I have had a small shaft bit slide down and, once only, rise out of the collet. I have never had that problem with 1/2 inch bits, only the smaller shaft bits.
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13th January 2016, 09:18 PM #3GOLD MEMBER
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Unless I'm missing something this extension that I sell - Shaft Collet Extension ½ IN TO ½" FOR Hand Held Table Router Collet Incl | eBay - does the same job at a much lower price and with no balance issues. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Cheers,
David
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13th January 2016, 10:37 PM #4Woodworking mechanic
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Last edited by Lappa; 13th January 2016 at 10:44 PM. Reason: Damn auto correct!
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14th January 2016, 01:34 PM #5
Certainly much cheaper David. I might've had a go at it had I been aware of it. I stumbled across the XX more or less by accident, because Amazon put it in the suggestions when I was trying to find out if I can get a musclechuck that will fit my TR12; reading comments and reviews whereever I could find them.
The balance issue is questionable. Putting any kind of extender into your chuck and then adding a heavy long bit will create the potential for a lot of whip, and, as the manufacturers of the XX say in their leaflet, a single small grain of sawdust in the collet can totally throw things off.
The XX I got was/is certainly beautifully machined and obviously has been balanced - any issues, so I am assured, will almost certainly be due to the thing not being seated 100% in the collet. 99.5% may not be good enough. I will accept that.
They even suggest a method - at first glance very rude - to eliminate vibration that comprises rotating the bit by hand against the fence, and once you find the spot where it's closest, you put a block against the XX and hit it with a hammer. Won't damage the extender, but will help seat it properly they say.
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Yes about A$94 compared to A$40 delivered in Australia, and if you have a collet lock you only need one spanner. All of these extensions potentially put a lot of extra strain on your router bearings and, like you, I certainly wouldn't be hitting anything with a hammer! I also couldn't emphasise enough the importance of having clean collets when using any extension and limiting the size of the 'bite' you take from the stock.
Cheers,
David
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