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18th May 2011, 08:58 AM #31
there you go. Can't justify another router purchase right now.
fixed speed router. Vibration was minimal on the router when powered up I thought so I went for it. attached an old plane knob on the 16mm base. the left hand sits at the edge of the base....the weight of the hand is mostly on the stock (gives me plenty of control I feel..imo)
amoora timber. soft.
Felt no control issues at all. If anything ( and this is just a feeling ) I felt it was safer at higher speed. feel there's less chance to catch and dig in. but
went along end grain a bit too......locked up my arms and torso and did creeping cuts first till the bearing touched.... felt so easy, that I was actually able to easily control the cut in one shot. (And I'm not a particularily strong person <- for those who want to say its an ego thing or whatever other ####ing impetuous conclusions people reach).
Felt the cutter......no burning......no heat build up...
I felt so comfortable with the cut actually that I can see easily how it would work fine on harder timbers. I've got a riveroak rocker seat to complete soon and can see it being quite possible without fear.
but then I had another go....uno being the overconfident wanker I am.....and it EXPLODED ! CARBIDE WENT THROUGH MY BRAIN, THROUGH MY LEFT NUT, THROUGH THE WALL IN THE SHED AND LODGED ITSELF INTO THE CAR. I WRITE THIS NOW IN THE HOSIPITAL. GOD I LOVE MORPHINE. THINK I MIGHT STEAL SOME WHILE THE NURSE IS NOT LOOKING. THE WIFES AT HOME RIGHT NOW CLEANING UP THE MESS. I CAN SEE HER THINKING..... GLAD IT WENT THROUGH HIS TACKLE. HOPEFULLY THIS MEANS HE WONT BOTHER ME SO MUCH ANY MORE. '
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18th May 2011, 09:29 AM #32
I hope your timber is from ethical sources!
Something I learnt quite recently is that people (including me) mistake their opinion for reality and and they argue about opinions as if the winner will somehow have warped reality to match their opinion. But that's just my opinion. Jake personally I would give it a go with some caveats which I'm sure you will also have. I would try in a variable speed router on low, I would build a bigger baseplate, both of which you are doing. I would also build a test platform, hard to explain, but it would look like a mitre box, built so it could be well clamped and a practise piece could be well clamped inside. The router would sit over the top. You can practise in safety since any exploding fragments would be contained within the box. Do several tests until you have reached a conclusion whether it is safe and gives acceptable results or that having tried it, it is imprudent practice.
EDIT Doh! I missed your last post Jake...
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18th May 2011, 09:57 AM #33
Good job on the baseplate. I've always thought the bases on routers were too small. Get any flex in the ply from the weight/handling of the router?
Now for a dust collection attachmentCheers,
Shannon.
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18th May 2011, 09:57 AM #34GOLD MEMBER
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Oh, he got away with it! Good grief, seeing as that happened I might retrofit my chainsaw into the table saw and produce some small parts. Hmm, maybe 1cm cubes from red gum? Reckon I'd get away with that?
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18th May 2011, 10:01 AM #35
Christ, I thought my workshop was dusty - looks like a sand-storm has been through man!
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18th May 2011, 10:53 AM #36
Sure, but you might want to;
- find a 10tpi chain
- make a zero clearance insert
- fit guard over protruding saw bar
- use ear, eye and respiratory protection
- ventilate the area if not using an electric chain saw
- rip some 1cm x 1cm stock
- Fix stock to sled an cross cut 1cm pieces off the end
I jest, but the objective here is to identify hazards, eliminate or substitute them. If that is not sufficient, you engineer something to change the circumstances of the risk. Also apply training when telling other people how to do it, and PPE is last line of deffence
Anything I missed?Cheers,
Shannon.
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18th May 2011, 11:21 AM #37
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18th May 2011, 01:51 PM #38
Hey Jake, all you gotta do now is attach a spray nozzle to it so its painted automatically as it comes off the router.
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18th May 2011, 02:39 PM #39Box Challenge 2011 - Check out the amazing Boxes!
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18th May 2011, 07:43 PM #40Taking a break
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19th May 2011, 05:11 PM #41
mate I'm sorry. I'll come clean. It didn't happen...... those pictures.... their just photoshopped. I spent all one night putting them together just to fool everyone out of contempt, resentment and all that sort of unconstructive ####. I felt bullied, and just had to make you feel all wrong.. Truth is actually, it did explode and have lost a finger.....
I was a complete fool for not showing the common curtesy to listen to men who've done nothing else but experiment highspeed cuts on large bits for up to 40 years +. ! ... I've only used a large round over bit once on a table top and have only seen other joiners use them a couple of times confidently as though they've been doing it all there life (but I realise now they must have been reckless too).
What I SHOULD have done, whilst trying to work out a process is, start a thread on it to discuss it, to at least learn something else about this type of cut BEFORE just recklessly diving into it. I'm such a fool.
Anyway, back to your chainsaw idea........ What a great idea ! I've been thinking about getting into chainsaws lately. Do you think a Stihl or husky be best suited for your tablesaw idea ?
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19th May 2011, 05:21 PM #42
I think its a fairly old idea. I remember reading it in a router book somewhere, in some shop somewhere in Brisbane a while ago. For me its good because I believe a hand should be bearing off a fixture when freehand routing. ie. hands rubbing on the stock as you go. (but to be honest even without the wider base I don't think you'd have a problem making that cut on that soft amoora. easy to control clean cut. )
I wish the baseplate was little thicker than the 16mm. I went for 22mm ply but . But didn't have any so tried 16mm. miniscule (spelling?) flex in the 16mm. There was little flex but so small I can't put a number on it. its fine I thought.
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19th May 2011, 09:50 PM #43
I'll catch it!
I'll catch it as it bounces off the lighthouse
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19th May 2011, 11:02 PM #44
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20th May 2011, 07:38 AM #45
ta Ian, actually think thats may work for me.
been trying to source timber green locally. Borrowed a chainsaw and got some river oak from a local farm. Not a great deal or particularily big , but just enough to fiddle with to see if its all worthwhile venturing into. ended up saddling some between horses and ripped it square by eye. ......so something like what you've got pictured there, got me thinking. thanks for the idea.
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