Thread: Buying: Eliminator Chuck for the new AUKtools under table motor

I am about to buy the exact same router, so I would love to join you on this - thank you for the offer!

Will be in touch in the next day or so to make arrangements - I figure you'd be looking for payment close to purchase time to eliminate changes in currency conversion? Happy to pay any time though, just thinking our loud

I am also about to see if I can find the manufacturer of this router, as I'm keen to see if there's a way to bypass the onboard speed control, and replace it with: www.SuperPID.com - Super-PID Closed-loop Router Speed Controller - it would seem much handier to me to have a speed control easy to reach rather than buried under the table in a dust shroud

It can be done, but Im not one for buggerising around, so I just bought it ready to go! AUKTools Router Control Station + 1800watt Router

Grahame at PWS was excellent at the time of purchase.

He confirmed a few things for me, namely this is a full-on 240v version of the PC7518 right down to the brushes.

Its a great unit. I highly recommend it. Ive used it a lot for paying work and admit 100% happiness.

On the speed controller, its bloody excellent. Changing a bit right up to its maximum speed while watching it and testing for burn is brilliant. Run it hard then pull it back a nano. I run my bits a lot harder now than I did with the Triton and get better cuts for it. With the Triton it was a hassle of reaching under the table, into the box and fiddling with it - so I didnt do it!!! This is simply a knob right at my hand - dead easy. The lights are great too.

On buying, it will be pretty straight forward. I'll just calc/guess the exchange, add a few bux to cover and you can pop it into my Paypal.me.... You can save on the US post (ill carry that) but you can pay for a little 500gram OzPost baggie. When the charge turns up I'll calc the right costs and refund to difference. We'll keep it simple. Its not a group buy, but more of a "piggy back".

Thanks Evan, I appreciate the offer, but would consider it fairer that we split the postage... truthfully, I didn't know this existed, wouldn't have found it without your post, love the idea of it, and would otherwise have been paying full postage had I found it and went to get one anyway

Ok. I'll order two in the morning.

just send me your info on PM and I'll estimate final cost, but there won't be any surprises

Evan, weren't you going to use an ER20 chuck?

I am and I was.

This is the thing ... its the Porter-Cable Compatible Collet Kit from precisebits.com

I was having one last think about which way I should go.

The PreciseBits one still uses a lower spanner and the Eliminator uses a single hex key.

Where Im getting hesitant is the chuck on the AUKmotor uses two big spanners. When using the Incra lifter, the lower spanner doesn't sit down and flat. The kink/crook in the tool is just a tad too far away from the socket and it wont sit in cleanly. This will, over time, wear the Incra inserts area. This severely irritates me. I cant stand crappy end-engineering... its lazy.

Plus there is the fact that the supplied spanners are simply stamped metal. The angles on the heads-to-handle isnt great so undoing a tight collet is harder than it needs to be. Now, I could get new spanners made up (22mm?), but that would cost me $50.... or I could simply buy the Eliminator for not much more. Id be no worse off accuracy wise!

Im going to the studio now anyway, so let me post a photo to show what I mean.

The AUKtools spindle motor is really amazing. The Triton TRA001 was cleaned right up for sale (not that it needed much) and put into a box with all the bits and pieces ready for sale. A few times I've thought about taking it back out and remounting it on the other side of the table saw for "rough work".... but I have a terrible habit of having two things and only ever really using one....

These chucks are the same sort of thing.

Peter, if you are reading the thread, do check out the link above.

I have the motor but I think I will sell it and go the CNC spindle route. If you side mount the motor the top can be made a lift off or hinged and there are no more access issues, having said that the lift is a work under consideration at the moment. I will try and find the video that shows this style of lift and post it here. I put it up when we were first talking of CNC spindles and it has become lost in the archives.

Originally Posted by woodPixel

Peter, if you are reading the thread, do check out the link above.

Still reading, and I'm guessing you're referring to the AUK router and control box? Nice, and I didn't realise that was there, but you don't get a readout of RPM with that?

Me being newbie doesn't know if this is important or not, but am erring on the side of caution and suggesting I'd rather have a feature than miss it - and the cost of the AUK and control box is enough to have the Super PID and plain AUK... or so my memory tells me as far as price is concerned.

Am just figuring out where in the heck the PID (or even AUK control box) is going to get mounted along some 92" of Incra TS-LS rail... this too will have a solution, when I get to assemble the whole shebang

Peter, I just whacked you an IM to confirm everything is stin on.

For the rest of the world, I thought to post a bit of experience with the Eliminator....

I put put the second hand one into the Festool OF1400 and ran it hard while doing the hinge-ups on 34 boxes yesterday. It was very smooth with no noticeable change in whine, vibration or quality compared to the standard Festool chucks (which are excellent).

What I was surprised about is I always felt the Festool ran considerably slower in rpm compared to the Triton TRA001 (which was under table) and the new AUKtool motor I'm now running. Tonight I wanted to ensure the new chuck I'm buying would handle the revs on the under table....imagine my surprise that the Festool runs at 22000 rpm! With the Eliminator it was very smooth indeed.

I'm sold! Going to grab one tomorrow.

I'd certainly recommend Professional Woodworker Supplies should stock them with their new motors.

The Eliminator Chucks are great, provided you don't over tighten them. I can understand the desire to keep a router bit travelling at 22,000 RPM captive, but over tightening the EC isn't going to help.

Regards

Grahame

Originally Posted by woodPixel

This fabulous motor by AUKtools is essentially a Porter Cable PC7518

Im buying the Eliminator chuck for it from Joe off his site. The Eliminator Chuck (its the leftmost one)

He rang this morning (Sunday 8am!) and offered me a package deal.

usd$47 for the chuck (or usd$94 for two) and $30 shipping.

I'll be taking him up on that.

Is there anyone with this router who might be interested in piggybacking off me? You can buy another model if you want. I'll pop it to you in a baggie or you can collect (if in Canberra).

I bought the Festool one of @ronboult on Saturday and I've used it all day yesterday and today. It is a fantastic little chuck and well worth the expense. Very sweet, no vibration, no issues. Lovely.

If you are interested, visit my site for the email (and my phone#) or bang me a PM. I'll probably order fairly soon.

Evan
woodpixel.com.au

Hi Evan, Old thread I know, but i was wondering in the time you've had the AUK have you had any issues with wood dust fowling the electronics and making the router motor labour and carying speed even without any load. I think it is a poor design for down draft tables with the top end of the motor exposed with the fan vent.... If you do, how have you resolved the problem?
cheers
Gary

Absolutely no problem what so ever.

I used it will for quite a while when I was doing kids furniture. Combo of pine and MDF.

It was a champion. Mine is the version 2.

There were a few things I particularly enjoyed: its quiet, its powerful, it doesn't labour, the remote variable speed knob, the mushroom stop and indicator lights.

Negatives, not so many as they are trivial: the spanners are ordinary. The motor sometimes growled on startup due to dust (a good rev or a blast with the compressed air nozzle fixed that)


There is a thread here where I discussed an undertable dust box. WOW! Biiiiiggg difference. Captured all the micro stuff and 99% of the macro stuff. Macro isnt so much of a bother as its chips and easily cleaned up. The fine dust a router can make is horrendous.

I dont know what the market is now with these things, BUT if it hasnt changed since I bought this AUK I'd still recommend it.

Its one of my pride and joys

Interesting thread on Sawmill Creek on the PC 7518. I wonder if the US product is different from the local supplies?

Porter Cable does not honor their warranty

Regards from Perth

Derek