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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry72
    Finally got around to updating the fence on the bushpig table...
    That there's a fancy fence to sit on a BBQ plate....

    Nice job!

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    Harry, you're my sorta innovator . After I finished a toy box for a mates kids this arvo, I thought "need to look at a better router fence and started doing something very similar myself using 2" rhs alloy and yep 50mm x 3mm angle (what is it with vehicle modifiers/rodders & alloy anyway??), didn't get as far as you though. Now you've given me an idea slightly off tack from where I was going
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrylF
    For my money, start with Norm's router table:
    http://www.newyankee.com/getproduct3.cgi?0301
    Has anyone built this one? - it looks nice. I have plans for one from Plansnow.com but like this better. I might buy Norm's plans if they are worth it.

    Cheers
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    Hi

    For my preferences on this router table/fence subject, I like the idea of a 750mm square table with the router offset to one edge (front / rear) and allowing the fence to be positioned either side of the router (so the user can work on wide or narrow pieces etc).

    The fence could be made from a 75mm x 20mm rectangular aluminium section. Block one end of this fence and adapt a vacuum cleaner/dust extractor to the other end.

    On the front of this aluminium section, you can attach some mdf faces via some T-Track (sailtrack) recessed in the back of the mdf. The attaching bolts then pass through the aluminium fence to allow zero clearance around the router bit. Replaceable ends (the ends next to the router bit) will allow the router bit to cut into the fence and provide the best zero clearance. (Turn the router on and slowly feed the replaceable ends into the bit).

    As far as fence height is concerned, I would create a device similar to that made by Incra. The horizontal bar attached to the fence and sits about 200mm high ...
    http://www.incra.biz/Products/WonderFence.html

    Hey. I just looked at the rest of the page at that url, Incra have pinched some of MY ideas (dust extraction and sacrificial fence)
    Kind Regards

    Peter

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    Default Why the Front???

    Why is it that most router tables have the router mounted so far to the front? Why wouldn't you want more table area to support the work? :confused:

    Sorry I don't understand the reasoning. How about some enlightenment.

    Thanks
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    Default Depends what you're using it for???

    Mr Chips,

    Router table design is variable and usually depends on what the user 'thinks' they will use it for. In conventional edge profiling applications using a normal fence, you're right, but...... when using a Incra Jig the router is repositioned so that there is room between the router and the fence for the work piece.

    Using the Incra LS 17" Positioner as an example, the recommended distance from the cutter to the positioner mount is 19 3/4", quite a way forward on most tables, least ways the standard 800 x 600 that is most popular.

    I hope this explains the reason for the router placement when using the Incra system.

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    Yes, I understand the need for more room behind the fence for the Incra application and that is necessary.

    And that it would also be easier to access the router for adjustments when it is mounted in a further forward position.

    I was thinking there was another reason, because I see so many designs where it is mounted so far to the front of the table.

    Can anyone shed more light on this forward locating practice? :confused:

    Thanks
    Hager

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrChips
    Yes, I understand the need for more room behind the fence for the Incra application and that is necessary.

    And that it would also be easier to access the router for adjustments when it is mounted in a further forward position.

    I was thinking there was another reason, because I see so many designs where it is mounted so far to the front of the table.

    Can anyone shed more light on this forward locating practice? :confused:
    I'd say it has a lot to do with ergonomic/anthropometric considerations.

    There are three basic positions/heights for woodworking:

    Power; around waist area i.e. planing
    General; mid torso
    Precision; near chest level eg detail carving

    The router table is a mixture of general and detail. If the bit were set back the hands and arms would be outstretched, making detail work very difficult and potentially unsafe. For a lot of work, the head should be over or very near the bit to provide line of sight to the cutters, if it is set back too far the line of sight can be obscured by the workpiece.

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    Thanks Groggy,
    The argument for ergonomic/anthropometric considerations is a strong one. And I totally agree both for safety and ease of use.

    Thanks
    Hager

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    Just keeping an eye on this thread, I am currently making a router table and most of the ideas here are relevant to my thinking.

    The router table is a mixture of general and detail. If the bit were set back the hands and arms would be outstretched, making detail work very difficult and potentially unsafe. For a lot of work, the head should be over or very near the bit to provide line of sight to the cutters, if it is set back too far the line of sight can be obscured by the workpiece.
    Yep, found that where I had positioned the plate was just too far from the body to be comfortable, Lucky for me I have room to cut the top back to make the necessary adjustments.

    Himzo.
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    Thanks Himzol,

    I'll keep an eye on this thread, and watch for your project.

    One thing I miss about this forum is being able to see a single listing of all new entries from all threads regardless of area, as I frequently see on other Forum’s. Possibly there is one and I just don’t know where to find it. Other than that this is a 5 Star World Class Forum.

    Thanks

    Hager

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    Okay so where does one get a power thing?... I mean Ive got the table and router but now Ive gotta reach way the buggary under the thing to switch it on and off... bloody dangerous to my thinking so was hoping theres a switch I can buy to mount on the table leg or table underside that the routers lead plugs into and you turn it on and off from a safer perspective... this without having to pay a leccy an arm leg and two testicles to make up!!

    So anyone got any ideas where a bloke would buy one?
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    They must be available somewhere 'cos the Triton Router Stand has one on it but I guess you don't want to buy the whole stand to get it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff Rogers
    They must be available somewhere 'cos the Triton Router Stand has one on it but I guess you don't want to buy the whole stand to get it.
    oh an ye be guessin dead right Cliff ol mate... no way I want to buy another router table!!... Just got no idea where Id start lookin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Dingo
    Okay so where does one get a power thing?... I mean Ive got the table and router but now Ive gotta reach way the buggary under the thing to switch it on and off... bloody dangerous to my thinking so was hoping theres a switch I can buy to mount on the table leg or table underside that the routers lead plugs into and you turn it on and off from a safer perspective... this without having to pay a leccy an arm leg and two testicles to make up!!

    So anyone got any ideas where a bloke would buy one?
    I bought mine from Carba-Tec in Perth.
    Kind Regards

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